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Disgusted
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People like me don't call Fraudci, Mental Midget Mengele for nothing. He is the poster child for corruption and criminal incompetence. I couldn't help but watch the propagandists on CBS this morning, and all I can say is if what I saw this morning is any indication of how insane these people are, the maniacs aren't going to stop UNTIL THERE IS MASS DEATH. They are riding this death cult train to the bitter end. People better get used to the idea that undeniable catastrophic failure is the only thing that will wake up the morons and useful idiots, and open the door to actual truth. The push to vaxx young children is the final nail in the coffin to go to the end of the tracks. The last decent firebreak that existed. If the vexx does actually enhance the virus (which is looking more and more likely), it's game over. I can only hope there will be a reckoning with mass arrests for what they've done. One thing is for sure, hardly any one will trust the medical system again. Hell, life as we knew it will never be the same. I just cancelled 2 appointments with doctors including my annual physical, because there is no point listening to that PCP idiot cry the whole time about me not being vexxed. I'll stay away from every medical monster I can at this point.

It would be interesting to set up a poll to see what the people that comment here think, "what the hell is going on here". What's your opinion?, is it just pure greed, or a planned depopulation event, or a combination of both.
Phils
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A sick dog, cat, or horse, gets better medical care at a local vet than a covid infected person does at a local hospital!

Let that thought sink in.

Congress in DC owns this large and growing pile of ****. Don't see any indication that they are changing course, so keep them informed about your negative feelings as to their covid response and performance.
Jpg
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disgusted wrote..
...the maniacs aren't going to stop UNTIL THERE IS MASS DEATH.

Even then, they'll blame it on "the subhuman unvaxxed".
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I pray I live to see Fauci, global elite and world leaders stand before a jury receiving their just punishments.
I suspect that if that happens, it will be a miracle. They will receive judgement from their Maker, not mortal men.
Tickticktick
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Do we have a bunch of people dying of secondary bacterial pneumonia and not Covid-19 at all yet again, nobody is looking because there is a playbook and it does not include looking for and treating anything else if the person has a positive Covid-19 test? The use of steroids is shown to help dampen inflammatory response (and thus is common and helpful in hospitalized Covid patients) but systemic steroids also set up the potential for bacterial colonization by suppressing immune response.


Want to share my experience.

Okay, part of the FLCCC protocol is to administer azythromycin (z-pack), this is an antibiotic and should have no effect on a viral infection (covid). The steroids that are also part of their protocol are to tamp down an over-reactive immune response that may occur as the body responds to the VIRUS (correct?).

What happened to me:

- 4 men and 1 woman works in our office

- only one is vaxxed, and he got the vax "early", and a very recent booster. All others unvaxxed.

- mid-August, one of the unvaxxed calls in sick, he is hospitalized and tested + for covid. His wife and son also test positive.

- other unvaxxed male: doesn't get it but his wife and son at his home then test positive for covid.

- woman: about 3 weeks later, developed low-grade fever and low-grade flu-like
symptoms, which have not progressed much. I started her on Vit C, D, zinc and quercetin, but she balks at Vitamin I for what I consider childish reasons.....

- late August, I get a high fever (101+) that I can barely control with aspirin/tylenol. I immediately start with daily Vitamin I and Quercertin/zinc. Had already been taking Vitamin D, C, and a multivitamin all spring and summer. I'm fairly healthy, on no medications, a little bit (20#) overweight, late 50's, smoker.

- almost immediately developed what is called "occipital neuralgia", which is the feeling of being CONSTANTLY electrocuted in short (1/4-second) bursts in your temple and side/back of your head area. This is an absolutely dreadful feeling/condition that you cannot escape from until you get the fever down (p.s. this had happened to me once before, perhaps 2010 or so, when I had the flu and it ---- the neuralgia ---sent me to the ER, which is how I know all about it).

- got a prescription from doc for the z-pack and prednisone. Took the first dose (2 tablets) of the azythromycin and within 12 hours the fever was broken and the neuralgia went away.

- once the antibiotic course was done (3 days), started on the prednisone. Vitamin I (etc.) therapy continued the entire time, and to the present day.

- also gargle and use the 1% iodine nasal spray 3x daily.

- Prednisone use has just now finished.

- so besides the "standard" FLCCC "treatment" (which for me is now back to the "prophylactic stage", I'm out of bullets.......

- obviously, once the neuralgia was brought under control, I felt 100% better, I couldn't smoke because of a "tightness" in lungs from doing so, but that went away about a week later.

So......can I likely conclude that:

a) I may or may not have had covid, but rather a bacterial infection? How else would the antibiotic have made a difference? Obviously never went for a covid test.

b) oxygen saturation never went below 94%, most measurements were in the 94-97% (sometimes 98%) range during each test (2x daily).

c) since I'm all out of bullets, what happens if things do not continue to improve? Have not had any fever for over a week.


Thanks for any advice or insights. Karl (and many others here) are an invaluable resource, and always brings to mind the tribute given to Isaac Newton upon his death:

[B}Mortals, congratulate yourselves that so great a man has lived for the benefit of your species.[/B]
Toddmeister
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Condolences Spanky and Jwm_in_sb

Jazzydix
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@Boredfree I mentioned to one of my lefty brainwashed friends (I live in NYC!), who of course got jabbed, that she only got the vaccine because of Trump's Warp Speed program. She immediately countered with "Oh, I don't think Trump had anything to do with it." Trust me these people are so afflicted with Trump Derangement Syndrome that they won't give him credit for anything!
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Anyone who hasn't stocked up on their own supply of medicine, lost the extra weight, isn't taking D3 and zinc now, and are relying on a vaccination and the hospitals in case they get a bad case of COVID are taking a huge risk.


Quercetin, zinc, d3, curcumin, NAC, vitamin c, multi vitamin ivermectin

I take c, d and multi daily. If I feel a bit run down I take everything but ivermectin.

If I get any symptoms, even a runny nose it's everything AND ivermectin.

So far in 19 months as an unvaccinated paramedic knee deep in covid I've taken ivermectin twice. Once to see how it tastes and the second time yesterday because my temp was 36.9 and I had a bit of a stuffy nose.

Feel 100 percent today.

Most people are fat and malnourished. Take care of yourselves, eat well and exercise and take your damn vitamins.

Most importantly, pray.
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https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/1438....

The jabs and pregnant women; the study used to promote the safety of jabs for pregnant women has been corrected. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ....
Luciab
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@Heartlander. How are you? I am praying for you. Please get well. To those like @Spanky and others who have lost loved ones, my sincere condolences. The Bible speaks of God's vengence and it will be a wonderful thing to see him take out his rage on the evil ones. Patience and trust. Isaiah 30:15- "Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust."
Warm regards to all.
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@Disgusted

I'm living in the UK at the moment and I agree with your sentiments about doctors. I moved earlier this year and have yet to register with a new GP. If you're not familiar with British medicine, you register with a doctors surgery (practice) to get primary care. They're the gatekeepers of the system. At this point, I do not trust them at all, and not being registered means that the NHS isn't contacting me constantly trying to get me to get the vaccine.

When I get back to the US, I don't intend to register for Medicare Part B either since I do not trust any medical personnel associated with the insurance system. I am looking at Direct Provider Care which I heard about recently. I've found the DPC Frontier website helpful, especially their map of DPC providers. https://www.dpcfrontier.com/ It's kind of the budget concierge medicine option.
Onelegged
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Karl's local quack are killing 89% of those admitted.

Dr. Joseph Varon and his MASK+ protocol has death rate of 4.4%

Watch the side window video at the FLCCC home page.

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Onelegged
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The Feds are going to pay Merck massive money ($1.2 Billion) to develop a new Covid cure instead of using IVM which is already available.

The clock is ticking you mother****ers. People are (STILL!!!!!) dying!

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Canadianna
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@Susanlauren

Sorry to hear about your colleague. Sadly, learning a lesson the hard way, seems to be the preferred choice of education for most.

Politicians, media and a medical complex captured by big pharma do not count as credible sources of information for making personal medical choices IMHO.

Enduring the ridicule, nasty comments and DISCRIMINATION that (so called) friends, family, local, Provincial and Federal governments are encouraging and will soon be come law, after our Federal election, is still preferable to being at risk of having to rely (perhaps for the rest of my life) on the very medical monsters, that endorse this vaccine for everyone.

I have seen how compassionate they really are, even to their own, who dare to question the established narrative. Dr. Byram Bridals open letter to the president of Quelph University is heart breaking.

As is the treatment of Dr. Francis Christian from the University of Saskatchewan. Whose only crime was to advocate for informed consent for parents considering vaccination with EUA mRNA/mDNA vaccines?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/sa....


More hard learned lessons to come?

Radiosity
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@abelardlindsey "I agree that it is mostly greed. The problem I've always had with the various conspiracy theories is they all require a level of institutional competence that I have never seen in any context whatsoever."

Kinda answered your own question there. You don't NEED competence, you just need greedy, power hungry asshats who'll do anything if it means a couple of extra zeroes get added to their bank account.

This is especially true if your goal is the destruction of society and as many deaths as possible. Again, you don't really need competence for that, as we've seen this last year and a half.

Also, when men like Schwabb, Gates, Soros et al, who are wealthy and powerful enough to legitimately make **** happen rather than being all talk, are openly discussing what they're doing, it kind of stops being a conspiracy 'theory'.
Quantum
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@Crossthread @Jwm_in_sb I'm so sorry to hear of your losses.
E76
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My uncle (late 60s, several comorbidities) caught the virus in November.
I don't have all the details but I know for certain he was on a ventilator and was given Remdesivir.
I periodically checked in on him. The details were never about covid and usually about "kidney problems" or other side effects.

Fast forward to summer of this year.

He'd been released. He had a follow-up visit. The doctor specifically said his heart looked great and his recovery was going smoothly.

A week later he dropped dead of a heart attack.

While talking to my cousin at his funeral, I learned he was vaccinated with Pfizer.
Why did they vaccinate him when covid nearly killed him?
They pushed it on him against his wishes.

Apparently his death was classified as a run of the mill heart attack.
Swingtrader
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tickticktick wrote..
part of the FLCCC protocol is to administer azythromycin


Azithromycin is no longer part of the flccc protocol.

There have been several updates to the protocol, some parts changing in a week or so. As the virus changes and more is learned the protocols change.

Current protocols are at this link. The link appears to be dated nov 2020, there have been multiple protocol changes since that time. if you wish to remain current you have to check often.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-conte....

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Shermanbroder
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Tickerguy wrote..
But unchecked greed is bad. It becomes exploitive, even murderous.


So true. But in my opinion the operative word in that quote is not "greed." The operative word is "unchecked."

Does raw "greed" mechanically turn a bank employee into an embezzler? No. Thousands of bank employees have an opportunity to steal, but few do. Why? Their personal virtue checks their temptation.

Hell. We all experience greed. We're all tempted, but we all have the power to resist temptation. Whether we use that power or cross the line and succumb to temptation is what separates honest citizens from criminals. Personal, private virtue is the source of that power.

A free, productive, cooperative society cannot long exist without private morality and private virtue. Our founders knew that and said it clearly:

https://mountlibertycollege.org/without-....

But our founders were worldly-wise as well. They knew that some citizens among us are weak-willed and/or without private virtue. So, to protect society, they created laws against theft and a public authority to enforce those laws.

From the standpoint of society it doesn't matter what motivates the thief. What matters is whether or not our public authority does it's job with integrity and honor. A corrupt public authority is one that allows those who break the law to get away with their crimes and get off scot-free.

IMHO, the crisis we face today is not due to Fauci's excessive greed. The crisis is caused by the refusal of our corrupt public authority to check Fauci's greed for him.

Again, IMHO, this is why cooperative society's crack up. Citizens with private virtue recognize the theft taking place and the corrupt public authority that enables it and is, sometimes, a partner to it. The virtuous then become righteously disgusted and eventually decide to enforce the law themselves by any means at their disposal.

This is the situation we face today.

Reason: Clarity
Thelazer
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I'm reminded of the matrix more and more.

"Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
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I watched a video, of a male nurse, who had a history of treating pneumonia. He has taken a traveling CV19 nurse job. He found out, the first thing they did was inject Remdesivir. They did nothing about bacterial pneumonia, something one is about guaranteed to get, in a hospital. They were put in a ward and everything was administered remotely.

If one lays up in a hospital, they are about guaranteed to get pneumonia. This guy said they were doing nothing toward getting patients out of bed, a recipe for death. I am a lay person and I know the recipe for death is to get sick and lay up in bed. Another thing he said was they never recovered. The disease would pass, but they couldn't take the masks off. One more thing brought up was that, if your kidneys failed, your lungs had to replace the removal of fluids. What a deal, damage the kidneys and have a form of pneumonia? Sounds like a protocol developed by an idiot, or by someone wanting to create a death toll.

As you skate around this story, the story of how treatment in hospitals is being done. It is no longer being done by doctors, but bureaucrats. This was created by corporate interests and then put on steroids, by the Obamacare bureaucrats. See what is going on. No IVM, HCQ, inhalers. The capable medical treatments are being cut off by bureaucrats. This goes on much longer, hospitals won't be anything, but death camps, run for profit.

You can't look at this and not draw one of 3 conclusions. The system is being run by idiots, crooks or something even more evil. You have to eliminate the first condition, because even a group of idiots would make some right moves. Everything that works is prohibited and what is damaging is pushed forward. Is it greed, or are they trying to destroy society, commit population reduction and put us under totalitarian control? I suspect greed has played a role, but from what I have seen, the later is what is going on.

How can everything be done backwards, and it not be on purpose? Early treatment blocked. Hospital protocols designed to kill people? Call everything CV19 and treat as such, though it might be flu or normal pneumonia? Use media to terrorize people, then use lockdowns to cower people, in their homes.

How do we get out of this? Does anyone expect the DC structure to do anything about it? There is too much, for this to be mistakes, because they double down, not adjust and they whack a mole everything that works. This is a lot deeper than Fauci.

They are now pushing more to jab kids. This is an Adolph Hitler style operation. Anyone who can look can see the jabs are an epic error, not a solution. They are at best a path to totalitarian control. I suspect something even more sinister, like a mass murder made to look like an accident

How deep is this level of criminality? It appears it has been fully installed at the top of Western governments, in the health agencies, in the majority of regional heads, in the House and Senate. Who is speaking out? They are hitting the accelerator, ignoring the bridge washed out signs.

Name one thing they have done right? Everything done right has been prohibited. Everything. Texas and Florida open monoclonal centers and the Federal Government confiscates the drugs. Doctors develop treatment protocols and the corporate pharmacies refuse the drugs and false stories about them are put out. The big lie is never retracted. Line them up to take jabs that have killed thousands, disabled hundreds of thousands and everything will be okay.

Can't anyone see that these are NAZI's? As the comedian said, it's a big club and we aren't in it. Who is? Congress, the bureaucracy, corporate heads, union heads, education boards and especially the POTUS and heads of most major countries. Left outside? The Bill of Rights and our wellbeing.

How much international scientific bull**** does it take, before the average guy sees the world is being run by genocidal NAZI's hiding behind fake science? I have heard the goal of eliminating 90% of the worlds population out of the mouths of too many of these people. They may need to make the climate change scam easier to implement, as it means the same.

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Mikeyinfl
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First of all, it breaks my heart to hear those who have lost loved ones that shouldn't have due to these negligent treatments.

I wanted to also point out that along with the bogus treatment plans, it look like the CDC allows hospitals to classify vaxed deaths as unvaxed. We've seen this pop up before, but it sure helps fuel the narrative/fear propaganda they are pushing.

https://www................/2021-09-17-c....

I finished reading the draft pdf of Dr. Breggin's book We are the Prey. He gave a copy of the pdf out with purchases prior to 9/1 and the book is due out very shortly. The doctor does a very good job tying together a lot of conspiracy theory into conspiracy fact with ~ 1000 citations along with his extensive background in fighting big pharma. I'm not plugging to help his sales, but it ties a lot of what KD has been posting here together. I don't expect people like my in laws to read it as they've bought into the jab hook, line, and sinker, but it's at least more ammo for people who are having difficulty understanding what's going on in order to fight this awful crime.

Lastly, did anyone see the NN story in July about the high miscarriage rate in 1st/2nd trimesters? I missed it, but it was linked in an AM Thinker article this morning. I just don't believe that incompetence explains all of what is going on and deliberate/misleading study results/interpretations show the malice that some have in order to further the narrative which is killing and will kill a lot of people.

https://www................/2021-07-01-d....
Eleua
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Fast version. Own example. Happened to me in May 2021.

Son's Bible group went on a retreat to Columbia River. All got the Coof and brought it home to their families. About half a dozen families got it. Everyone tested - all popped positive.

I come down with it on 5/2 (Sunday). Not bad, but annoying. Used horse paste, and I was done by Friday. I could do yard work, walk around, etc., which I felt was therapeutic, as I didnt want to sit in bed.

Just as I come out of it (fever broke), I get another dip. Thinking that I beat the virus, I suspected bacterial pneumonia. Call the doc. Can't see him, since I am an untouchable. Tells me to sit at home until I have trouble breathing, then go to the hospital. No ****. Seriously.

Nuts to that, so I go to urgent care. Diversity Doc comes in looking like a 1990s horror movie. Argument breaks out as to my condition. I insist its bilateral pneumonia. She says it is aggressive Coof.

I beat a chest X-ray out of her, and it turns out I am right. Get Amox and prednisone, and I am clear a few days later.

I told DW to never take me to the hospital (she works there). She rolls her eyes.

FF to today. DW now says I was smart to avoid the hospital. It's pretty bad.


The hospital system is killing people with drugs the jabs have yet to kill.

It's demonic. <-- short answer to Mangobanana.


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As predicted, ivermectin is the new toilet paper. - LQ
The level of abject evil afoot in our world is well beyond everyones normalcy bias. It is incomprehensible.
That kind of sums up the last month since the election, a giant amber alert for Trump's balls. - Davkj1
Erj
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3 years from now across your TV screen: IF YOU OR ONE OF YOUR FAMILY SUFFERED INJURIES, LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT OR DEATH FROM THE COVID VACCINE please contract DEWEY, CREATIN AND HOWE..Civil attorneys at law
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Off Topic: Its that time of year when Gen could well be writing future tickers on stock market collapse.

Then we find out about that supposed strong dollar and the Little Tin Gods called 'Big Tech' being Emperors with no clothes.
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