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2021-09-20 07:24 by Karl Denninger
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DELIBERATE Ignorance And Death by 'Health Care'*
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It is often said that there is some crazy conspiracy to slaughter -- whether you prefer to call it "genocide" or whatever.  In the context of medicine, including the current pandemic, I argue 99% of the time its simpler.

It's nothing more than greed.

Greed is not necessarily bad.  In measured and rational amounts it drives innovation.  I developed a crap-ton of software and designed a network around it that became MCSNet, a successful Internet company in the 1990s because of greed.  That is, by doing so I expected that I could make a lot of money.  That was not the first time I tried to make a lot of money, but it was the time it worked.  Most people who are entrepreneurs (and honest) will tell you that for every success there are three, five, sometimes ten or more failures.  "Failure" means you lose some or, in many cases all of your investment.

But unchecked greed is bad.  It becomes exploitive, even murderous.

What stops unbridled greed in the ordinary case?

Liability.

If I might otherwise claim a vial full of saline has medicinal properties and can cure a disease what will stop me is the threat of being bankrupted or even thrown in prison.

Now enter an epidemic or any other emergent crisis.

Florida and other states have laws constraining greed in times of crisis.  You can't charge someone $10/gallon for gas when a hurricane is coming for this reason.  There are people of the libertarian pursuit that argue these laws are immoral because the invisible hand of supply and demand would otherwise come into play.  They're only right until duress shows up.

They know it too.  Ask any of those libertarians how they feel about it if the gas station owner could see your fuel gauge, knew you were nearly out and couldn't reach the next station and then had his pump charge you $10/gal.  Or worse, he pulls a gun on you once you pull into the station and now you have no choice but to pay the grossly-inflated price.  Is not the hurricane a gun?  That the owner of the station doesn't pull it changes nothing; the question is about taking advantage of duress not who applies it to you.

Now let's look at epidemics and pandemics, since both certainly count as duress, especially if you're infected -- or being led to believe you will be absent something you do (or don't do.)

The last "serious" one before Covid that actually materialized in the US was HIV/AIDS.  What was Fauci's proclaimed miracle drug for HIV?  AZT.

What was AZT?  A failed cancer drug -- it not only didn't work it had a nasty safety profile.  In fact it damaged immune response including that in the bone marrow, which is where long-term immunity tends to migrate to and, by being present there, results in very durable, even lifetime protection.  We knew this going in because it had been previously tested and failed in cancer patients -- in fact it killed people in those trials.  In other words it was one of the overwhelming majority of molecules that drug companies invent, they look promising in test tubes and initial study, and then fail either due to ineffectiveness or outright harm when actually trialed.  Indeed what AZT had produced in those earlier trials looked an awful lot in terms of immune impact like AIDS!

But now we have a "epidemic" with no known effective treatments so off the shelf it comes and into people's bodies.  It appears to sort of work -- it delays, in some people, symptoms.  Or does it?  We're not sure, even today, because the "placebo" arm of the trial wasn't really blinded.  The people in the study could taste the difference between the real medication and the placebo.  Thus they knew which they were getting and this destroys the integrity of the study.  Nonetheless the drug, under heavy pressure from Fauci, was approved and used for a long time.

It didn't actually work but the toxicity was real.  While in those years AIDS was a death sentence because the therapies we have now, which suppress (but do not eradicate) the virus in your body, didn't exist the fact remains that a hell of a lot of money was made.  At the time AZT was the most-expensive medicine ever prescribed.

What's worse is that in the late 1970s we discovered that a cheap, off-patent two-drug antibiotic cocktail known as Bactrim prevented PCP, a nasty and very deadly pneumonia, in children undergoing cancer treatment for leukemia.  People with AIDS often got PCP as well; it is an opportunistic infection that almost-never causes disease in immune-competent individuals, but among those who are being treated for cancer and thus severely immune-suppressed it often did, and frequently killed them.

Anthony Fauci argued vehemently that there was insufficient safety data to recommend the use of Bactrim by AIDS patients as a prophylaxis to prevent PCP, even though they were getting the disease and dying by the thousands.  Whether this was linked to his vehement promotion of AZT is, of course, unknown -- but reasonable to assume.  What is known is that his advocacy against the use of said drug, which we knew worked and had saved countless leukemia patients from a nasty, choking death, resulted in 30,000 AIDS patients in American alone being shoved in the hole before the decision to bar its use in said people was overturned.

AZT was, by the facts, functionally worthless.  For every person temporarily "helped" one or more got screwed by the side effects and statistically zero people had the course of disease interrupted either way on a durable basis.

But it sure was profitable.

Now enter Covid-19.  Fauci runs an unproved line of crap on Remdesivir, claiming "clear-cut evidence" that it helps people recover from the disease.

What was Remdesivir?

It was a three-time loser!  It had been trialed as a drug against both Hepatitis-C and RSV, a viral disease that usually attacks young children and can be fatal in them.  It failed both trials.

Next it was tried against Ebola and failed there too.

But this time, with very limited evidence that it might shorten hospital stays and in fact zero evidence that it cut mortality, because we were in a pandemic that very limited evidence and no evidence that it prevents death allowed it to be given an EUA.  It's quite-expensive too since it's on-patent -- about $3,000 to be precise for the usual course of administration plus thousands more in charges by the hospital to administer it since it is an IV medication.  Any hospital using it makes a crap-ton of money giving it to you.

Further trials occurred over the next months with the most-important one arguably being SOLIDARITY, a very large multi-national in-hospital trial that covered multiple drugs.  It failed there too; it not only had no statistical benefit on outcome it wasn't the only one; indeed, zero of the trialed drugs when used in the hospital setting, that is, presumably late in the disease, worked -- including HCQ.  I was not surprised by any of those outcomes; HCQ, for example, would not be expected to work in the hospital because at that point viral replication is complete and its mechanism of action, such as it is claimed, was against viral replication.

The problem is that Remdesivir was developed and sold as an antiviral so why did anyone think it would work in the hospital under the same circumstance -- viral replication having completed -- where HCQ fails?

Yet even today it will be given to you if you check into a hospital with Covid-19.  It is part of the "official protocol."

It is, on the data, a useless drug just makes people money at your expense.  But most failed drugs aren't just useless since all drugs have potential harms associated with them.  This one is especially nasty because one of the side effects that came out of the early trials was a roughly 1-2 in 10 risk of at least temporarily damaging or destroying kidney function.  

Now think about this for a minute.  You're in the hospital fighting a potentially-deadly infection.  You get a drug that, 10-20% of the time on the data damages or destroys your kidney function.  Most people think the kidneys are all about removing uric acid and thus creating piss.  That's only part of what they do.

In addition they:

  • Control the acid/base balance of your blood.  This goes out of range, you die.

  • Control the water balance of your blood.  Guess what happens if that goes out of range?  Uh huh.  Specifically, that can cause acute pulmonary edema and compromise lung function.  You weren't already choking to death before that happened by chance, were you?

  • Controls electrolyte balance.  While some of that is survivable even wildly out of whack there are specific parts of electrolyte balance that you cannot survive being materially-disrupted -- to name one, potassium which is utterly crucial for neural conduction.  That being out of range can literally give you an immediate heart attack by interrupting or damaging the neural signaling from your brain to your heart muscle.  I think you can figure out what comes next if you suffer cardiac arrest.

  • Removes toxins. Not just uric acid; a whole host of other things including many drug byproducts.  Needless to say poisoning by excess levels of many of those results in.... yeah, you got it, death.

  • Control of blood pressure. Yeah, that ain't good if it goes out of range, right?

  • Controls the process of red blood cell production in the marrow by producing a hormone called erythropoietin.  No red blood cells, no oxygen transport.  You die (granted, probably not fast enough for it to be in play here.)

  • And a critical part in the metabolic pathway by which Vitamin D is used by the body.  What do we know is associated with bad Covid-19 outcomes?  Severely deficient serum Vitamin D levels.

Anyone who runs dialysis for other people as a nurse or who has had to have it done knows damn well that the process is not just about removing what would otherwise be piss.  Oh sure, that's part of it -- but it's a complex dance when you try to replace that which the body does on its own with external process and doing so requires a crap-ton of attention and replacement of those functions.  When you are under severe disease stress the odds that this sort of dysfunction and the inability to match natural response artificially, even in the short term and the best of skill, will kill you is quite high.

As a result it is entirely reasonable to expect that if you give Remdesivir, with a known 10-20% rate of significant kidney disruption rate to a group of people who are ill enough to be hospitalized it might well kill 10% of those it was given to via this toxicity.  Therefore in order for the drug to be considered worth the risk it would have to save statistically more people than it harms by enough to produce a hazard ratio that was materially in favor of the treatment and the confidence band would have to conclusively show that.

The data from SOLIDARITY said that isn't the case.

It gets worse.

Death from the above can be determined at autopsy.  Dysregulation of the first several of those items will produce differentiated edema, particularly in the lungs.  That is, excess fluid.  This is immediately obvious on autopsy and is wildly different than what is apparent if coagulation killed the patient, which is typically what results with Covid pneumonia that leads to death.

They aren't looking, on purpose, and in fact people who have specifically asked for autopsies are being refused.

If you did 100 of them on Covid hospitalized deaths, all of which got Remdesivir and found half of them had evidence of systemic harm from the drug well......

History rarely repeats, but it frequently rhymes.  Fauci, at the same time arguing for Remdesivir, an on-patent and expensive medication along with mandatory vaccination, argued against, and continues to argue against the early use of Ivermectin, HCQ and even Budesonide, three drugs for which we have decades of safety data and which are used routinely by huge numbers of people -- we have history on close to 4 billion human doses consumed for Ivermectin, millions of RA and Lupus sufferers use HCQ daily and Budesonide is commonly prescribed as a maintenance drug for daily use by asthmatics.

Speaking of vaccination we've known for decades that "leaky" vaccines -- that is, ones which do not sterilize you against infection and thus allow you to "carry" a disease and not get sick are dangerous.  If used when a disease is present in the community they turn vaccinated people into carriers and spreaders of the disease who have no idea they're passing the love around to others.  Eventually the disease finds a person it can make sick, whether their vaccine failed or they are not vaccinated.

We learned this the hard way decades ago with DTP.  Virtually every child was -- and is -- vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis.  Pertussis, otherwise known as "whooping cough" is a nasty disease that frequently kills infants -- and is dangerous to basically anyone who gets it.  Anyone who is symptomatic for it is instantly obvious due to its characteristic and violent coughing and "whoop" respiratory disturbance, which is also frequently associating with vomiting.

The DTP shots had a fairly nasty adverse effect profile and, what's worse, there were quality control problems with insuring the correct amount was in a given dose.  There were suspicions that the pertussis component caused permanent brain injury in children.  People sued.  The manufacturers withdrew the DTP vaccine, liability insurance became prohibitively expensive and the manufacturers threatened not to make any more of the shots -- ever.

What did Congress do in 1986?  Immunize the manufacturers from liability.  Instead VAERS (which we have today) was established, alleged "mandatory reporting" (which we know is a joke in the context of Covid-19 shots) was instituted for health  providers that administered vaccines and an arbitration system was established for alleged injury claims.

But what happened with pertussis itself -- you know, the disease?

Well, on the data, the vaccines were working.  There were only 1,010 cases of pertussis across the entire United States in the mid 1970s.  Rather than solve the quality control problems the industry, now immune from lawsuit, in full cooperation with the CDC changed the vaccines to "DTaP", which is what is given today.  That change  was broadly rolled out through the 1990s in the United States.  "a" stands for acellular; in other words, not containing the actual material of the disease.  DTaP was easier to make and, while somewhat more-expensive also did not suffer from the quality control challenges of DTP.

That's good, right?  Improve the product!  Why VAERS and everything that came from the lawsuits and such is a victory!

Uh, no, it isn't.

“The second generation of vaccine turned out to have an unanticipated limitation, and that has been probably the main engine driving the resurgence,” says Gill, who is lead author on a review article on the resurrection of whooping cough, published in the journal F1000 Research. Gill and his colleagues suspect that the vaccine, while preventing symptoms from pertussis infections for some time, has little impact on preventing people from becoming “colonized” with the bacteria, meaning they are asymptomatic carriers of the disease and are still capable of infecting others.

Why we would never do the same stupid thing again, not with an endemic disease that comes around here and there and screws some people, but rather into the maw of an epidemic that is screwing people by the score, right?

Oh wait -- we did exactly that and what's worse is that we are now mandating such abject stupidity for health care workers and enlisting countless people, including but certainly not limited to them, in marching around virtue signaling others to get jabs that history tells us will make the situation worse

Of course profit and the removal of liability from the manufacturers has nothing to do with this, right?  Why if they were liable then you could sue and introduce as evidence that we have known for decades on the data that when we did the same thing with pertussis we screwed people and turned a nearly-eradicated disease into one that makes a hell of a lot of people sick!

Now I want you to look in here.  Get out Excel, you're going to need it.

Or just look at my county and the latest figures off the CSV file.

358 people total hospitalized and of them 227 died thus far.

Sixty-three percent of the people who go into that hospital (there's only one in this county) for Covid-19 come out in a box?

How about Knox?

1,707 hospitalizations and 784 deaths.

Forty-six percent of those who go into one of the several hospitals in that much-larger county for Covid-19 come out in a box?

By the way on March 1st -- before Delta -- our hospital had killed 61% on a run-rate basis so no, this is not a "Delta" problem.

It is a post-vaccine acceleration at a gross rate, however: On January 1st, when statistically zero people had gotten vaccines, they had killed 43% of those who went in with Covid-19.

Indeed in Sevier County if you take the May 1st number of hospitalizations as a "baseline" (291) and deaths (175) and subtract that off you find that from May 1st to now 127 people went into the hospital for Covid-19 and 52 came out in a box thus far for a "kill rate" of 41% since the "advent" of Delta.  How you like those odds?  4 out of 10?

How about from July 1st to now, when basically everything is allegedly "Delta" and the vaccines may be either wearing off or worse, promoting more-severe disease?

304 in the hospital, 179 dead on that day.  In other words 54 hospitalizations in total and of them 48 died thus far.

THE *******S AT OUR COUNTY HOSPITAL SENT 89% OF ADMISSIONS HOME IN A BOX SINCE JULY 1ST!  You think there's no SIGNAL in there?

Yes, this is a bit unfair as there's overlap; that is, if you die the second day of the 2-month window you probably were infected and admitted some time previous. Can we correct for that?  Yes; offset the two by 10 days, which likely gets you into the median area for admission .vs. death (that is, on average it likely takes you about 10 days to die if you're going to die.)

So let's do that; we'll go with June 20th for the start date for admissions.  That's 304 and, on deaths, still 179 -- in fact on June 21st Sevier County recorded its previous one death.

I still get 54 admissions from June 20th to the 16th of September and 48 deaths, for a kill rate of.... 89%.  And this understates the rate, in all probability, since if I cut off admissions on the 16th I should carry forward deaths for another 10 days,  If we go back 10 days on admissions to the 6th, however, we get an identical count so we shall see if the deterioration gets worse over the next  week.   Oops.

Now do you understand why I was willing to do whatever I had to early, often and hard to avoid giving those pieces of crap a nearly 9 in 10 crack at killing me when I got infected at the beginning of August?  I succeeded, obviously, or you would not be reading this.

If I had to go and the option was this county rather than just laying down and being murdered so I could be held up as another "unvaxxed death" on CNN I might have chosen instead to do something that could send my soul to Hell.  When facing St. Peter this is what I would have told him:

"See all these souls immediately in front of me? I intentionally made them come here today because they were, with a 90% certainty, imminently going to commit murder upon both my person and others in addition to those who they murdered before me.  I did it to terminate that 90% kill rate, ending their orgy of death along with my life which I willingly spent.  I'm well-aware of God's commandment "thou shalt not murder", the serious nature of violating that law and the just and eternal punishment for doing so, but I submit that it is not murder to stop someone who is actively committing homicide, even if it results in their death.  This is especially true when the net number of lives that are ended decreases as a result of your actions, and a 90% slaughter rate across dozens of people over a couple month's time, which they can no longer continue, meets that criteria.  On the evidence I sincerely believe these people could have kept half or more of those souls who preceded mine here alive and their failure to do so was not an accident -- they did it on purpose out of willful ignorance, arrogance, spite, promoting a political agenda and greed.  Given that you have absolute knowledge of whether I am right or wrong then if I was wrong and my actions did violate the 5th Commandment, a mortal sin, I humbly accept my just punishment in eternal Hellfire."

You think I have any respect for anyone who claims that "oh this is so terrible" when they've done nothing about the Elephant in the room -- they own and execute those protocols for these patients and it is absolutely clear they are either doing nothing to save people or worse, actively killing them!

That's like asking me if I had respect for Jeff Dahmer because a few of the people he targeted managed to figure out what he had in mind and escaped having their heads wind up in his refrigerator.

How's Knox County (much larger and right next door) look?  1707 HX, 784 dead as of 9/16.  What was it on 7/1?  1434 and 649, respectively.

273 more hospitalizations and 135 more deaths, or a slaughter rate of 50%.  Better odds than my county?  Yeah, now its a revolver with three cartridges in it out of six holes instead of nine out of ten.  Oh by the way their rate of death from the start of the pandemic to January 1st was 343/960 or 36%.  That's going the wrong way too, isn't it -- and not by a little either.

How is it that with all these vaccines injected across susceptible people who are most-likely to get whacked by this virus we've gone from roughly 4 in 10 people dying who are admitted to more than double that rate and near-certain deathWhy is it that a much-larger county right next door with multiple medical centers, while doing better, is still going the wrong way?  Given that the data out of every place with reasonable statistics says that Delta is somewhat less lethal on a case fatality rate basis, and that all the really easy to kill people are already dead as they died either in early 2020 or the winter what the Hell is going on here?  We already know one hospital (but not in this area) was caught deliberately trying to lie for that purpose as someone taped the Zoom call where it happened and leaked it online.

It isn't because we wildly deployed a vaccine strategy that is identical to the one that failed for pertussis and we knew why it failed before this pandemic began, was it?  Isn't it lovely that we exempted everyone from liability for doing something that on the data was demonstrably dangerous and now, on the objective evidence as documented by the percentage of hospital admissions ending in a pine box is blowing up in our face?

Oh, and since we're talking about failed strategies, has anyone updated the adverse event risk on Remdesivir?  Nope.  What if those original trial results were skewed by illness severity and in fact the drug is a lot more dangerous than it appears?  What if, under increasing levels of systemic stress, that drug kills the majority or even nearly all of those people?

Given that the data continually has shown there is no mortality benefit where is the data from hospitals that do not use it and how do those compare on a matched-cohort basis with those that do?  Do such hospitals in the United States exist?

I cannot find a single scientific publication that lays this out; if you have it I'd love to see a link to it in the comments.

Do we have a bunch of people dying of secondary bacterial pneumonia and not Covid-19 at all yet again, nobody is looking because there is a playbook and it does not include looking for and treating anything else if the person has a positive Covid-19 test?  The use of steroids is shown to help dampen inflammatory response (and thus is common and helpful in hospitalized Covid patients) but systemic steroids also set up the potential for bacterial colonization by suppressing immune response.  Is "The magic PCR 8-ball" saying "POSITIVE!" a barrier to looking for anything else that may be going on?  Since nobody is doing autopsies you will never get caught if you don't bother looking -- is that why all these people are dying?

Again -- what the hell is going on here?  Is it simply that we were stupid with our jabs because we couldn't come up with a sterilizing vaccine for a coronavirus as there has never been a successful one before so the do something, even if it might harm in the interests of "Warp Speed" won and now we're screwed and yet nobody can sue over that which, objectively examined, was STUPID?

This sort of bull**** would never work absent the PREP Act's liability shield and the actions of HHS in the first weeks of the pandemic that specifically exempted hospitals, physicians and others from liability provided they use drugs and protocols the FDA and CDC list as approved whether under regular order or EUA -- and nothing else.   I remind you that not only did Trump's HHS do that but Biden has refused to rescind it -- and he has the power to do so immediately by direct order.

But for that liability shield the relatives of the deceased would order an autopsy be performed and if in fact evidence was present Remedesivir and not Covid-19 killed Granny, or the hospital refused to look for anything else once the PCR test came back positive and in fact she died of bacterial pneumonia they didn't look for and did not treat everyone involved would be sued to beyond the orbit of Mars.

Would we have even gotten beyond publication of the SOLIDARITY trial when it was conclusively demonstrated across a very large data set that statistically speaking it did not keep anyone from dying before that the thrice-failed drug was labeled a four time loser and binned?

Given what we know about this drug and the history of using dangerous and net-harmful pharmaceuticals that our "wonderful" health care system, regulators and others all the way down to doctors and nurses running around with virtue-signaling bull**** on their T-shirts promote and even demand go into patients what sort of possible reason would there be to not autopsy some representative sample of those who die and find out with reasonably medical certainty what's going on, especially when death rates for those hospitalized in certain areas have more than doubled in the last couple of months?

Other than "health care professionals" being made more self-absorbed in their virtue signaling while the hospital and drug company collects $3,000 per corpse for a drug that actually may have killed them, that is.

The math on this is nasty, the basic biological functionality of the kidneys and this drug's known harm to same strongly suggests serious trouble and yet I cannot find one hospital that has sought to discover the truth via autopsy and either prove or disprove that this drug is in fact killing and killed a huge percentage of those who died in the hospital with Covid-19 -- or whether something other than the virus was responsible for their death.  If you have said study and autopsies let's see them.  I've looked and can't find any evidence they exist.

It's all about the money and "virtue" of those nurses and doctors once again -- isn't it?  Just like the original Tik-Tok dancing nurses?

The more death the more "virtuous" they believe they are in doing "God's Work"?

FACTS THAT ARE TRIVIALLY DISCOVERABLE BUT INTENTIONALLY NOT LOOKED FOR BE DAMNED.

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My sister has a friend who has been in the hospital for COVID for over a month. What was the prescription for his recovery by the wonderful medical gestapo of this country? A steroid, a vent, and remdesivir - no ivermectin, and no family visits! My sister advised his family that remdesivir doesn't work and that ivermectin should be tried, but his family wouldn't push the issue.

He is now in palliative hospice care.

This same story can be told countless times.

Anyone who hasn't stocked up on their own supply of medicine, lost the extra weight, isn't taking D3 and zinc now, and are relying on a vaccination and the hospitals in case they get a bad case of COVID are taking a huge risk.
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That hospital data is stunning. I agree that greed is the driver with the pharma piece of this, but I also can't understand how all of this came to pass without some kind of organized evil. There are forces in power in this country who have used our own treasury against us to weaken the fabric of our republic. They used federal funds to push common core, and flooded sketchy NGO's with cash. They understand greed, and incentives. Now they've turned to flat out killing us with our own treasury (or more appropriately, dollars borrowed in our name) with the $30,000 bounty to the hospitals. I just can't square those things away as only greed. I wish I could, I would sleep better at night.
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The fourth one got cookie-monstered...

The title is "Autopsy Findings and Venous Thromboembolism in Patients With COVID-19 A Prospective Cohort Study" dated 18 August 2020
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Heros.

No wonder all the competent and honest medical staff are burning out, they have to watch patients die preventable deaths!
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They do @Shadowmask ?

If you sit by and watch this go on because you get paid to then you're a monster.

I'll treat them all as a rock since I'm not prone to violence when the general public is willing to sit back and let these *******s kill their own mother and, since nobody I love and care about is subject to that **** as they're all too smart to let them play pine-box roulette with them then "rock" it is so long as I'm left alone.

But if you think I will EVER show respect, deference or interact with ANY of them, ever, well....

NO.

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Doctors who prescribe ivermectin are losing admitting privileges and RNs don't have prescribing capabilities.
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And?

Slaughter for money is still slaughter for money.

I've been told to do things that I believed were wildly unethical before at job. I said "NO", knowing full well it could get me fired. It didn't, but it could have. Going directly up against a corporate board member (when you're not one!) and refusing to do what they want can lead to being summarily ejected.

If it had happened, so be it. What they wanted me to participate in was wrong. It wasn't a close call. While my refusal did not ultimately stop what later happened and was done by dozens of other firms, it DID stop it at the time -- and the risk was worth it.

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A big THANK YOU to Karl for the years of keeping me informed. I may not always agree, but I am always smarter having read something you have written. .
Most days I scan the headlines of the MSM to see what fresh feces they are peddling, sometimes I even read a story.
Today it was from National Propaganda Radio talking about vitamin I.
They were explaining to the readers that Ivermectin hasn't been linked to any real improvements in infected covid-19 patients, that it hasn't been properly tested, the studies with it have been done poorly and there isn't enough evidence to recommend it.
The funny part is in the same story the writer tells us the only way to fight covid is by getting the clot shot, which has even less science behind it.
We're supposed to fear a drug that has been used in humans for decades and embrace a drug that is so experimental it hasn't ever been tried before.
I must be a special kind of stupid because I would rather take my chances with the vitamin I than the shot in the arm

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Ohiomike
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The most egregious and disgusting thing I saw was a local hospital in Cincinnati was sued to treat a patient with ivermectin which was prescribed by a doctor outside their health system. Judge ruled temporarily to allow it while he considered the case. Over the next two weeks the patient went from 100% dependence of ventilator to only needing 50% dependence. The next court date judge reversed his own ruling and ivermectin was withdrawn. What is sickening to me is the hospital fought to stop a treatment that was working on the patient. Anyone with a brain would tell attorney drop case patient is getting better and thats the goal. This virus is proving the hospitals dont give a damn about patient outcomes.
Dingleberry
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Great post....makes me want to channel my inner Gordon Gecko! Greed (more accurately reward) is why we have the society we have today. But we need to have rules and an honest referee. But the refs are on the take.

Now instead of playing with livelihoods...we are playing with actual lives. For those of us who know the pharma biz intimately (I do)....this is not really a surprise except that this is a full-scale onslaught, overt and coercive. These evil scum want to vaccinate you, your kids, the unborn, the dog.....everything. Forever and ever.

Seems like the gov is completely captured by the pharm industry. Seems like the 4th estate has been completely captured by all those pharm ad dollars (plus their genetic leftist, marxist and tyrannical proclivities).

As for medicine...I can't explain what happened. Ethics and actual science are now gone, never to return. I guess growing and indoctrinating all those leftists from K thru grad school has finally produced a bumper crop of karens in lab coats.

Prepare yourselves for what is coming. The crazy train has no brakes.



Jwm_in_sb
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I suspect that the project Veritas whistblower is likely going to about some of this at least in part. We'll see how the msm deals with it. O'Keefe is good at getting to the heart of the issues and getting public scrutiny. The timing is good too coming the advisory committee vote on the boosters. Even normies heard about it and now have questions.
Augeries
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@Shadowmask

"I was only following orders" didn't fly in 1945 and it doesn't fly now.

The best thing that can be said of these Medical Professionals is that many seem honestly ignorant to the harm they are actually causing. That puts their crime in the Manslaughter category rather than Murder.

Am I supposed to clap for them?

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Great article. Beyond great. Not just pointing to the smoking gun but a huge mile wide across smoldering crater.

When you look at the larger story ( Fauci's track record) I begin to wonder what part he had on developing the protocols. Did he lend a hand or have someone who he picked, who he knows thinks like he did. Etc.

While finding background for a conspiracy theory is a waste of time, you can easily find a common thread of greed amongst the people involved.

What does greed NOT look like? I'd say a start would be the two FDA folks who resigned, and were signatories of the paper published in the Lancet recommending not to go with Boosters.

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Crossthread
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As I (did) post on the Private Side) of Ticker Forum, I'll post on this Public side..

My Father got the Clot Shot..

Soon after developed clot(s) in both Legs..

Was giving blood thinners & being Monitored..

Started having chest Pains, Rushed to the ER..

Was tested for Covid, Came back Positive

Heart outcome, was He had Myocarditis, in His heart..

Since,, he (also), "tested" Positive for Covid..

Was started on a Regime of Remdesivir

His Kidneys Crashed & Failed, Dead with-in 12 HOURS of admission..

Sept. 13th.. 2021

RIP Dad


EDIT, that ZOOM Call @Tickerguy is referring to?

Was from New Hanover Regional Medical, Right here in Wilmington, N.C.

Same place that Killed My Father..

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Greed/Control by any means necessary.


https://americasvoice.news/justthenews/p....
Sophie Mann JTN:


Pfizer-BioNTech on Monday announced that their double-dose vaccine was founded to be safe and showed a "robust" antibody response in children 5 to 11.

In a press release, the companies said that results of a trial of more than 2,000 children suggest that the vaccine response was "safe, well tolerated, and showed robust neutralizing antibody responses."

No vaccine has yet been approved, even on an emergency use basis, for individuals under the age of 12.

The companies report that the antibody production response, as well as the recorded side effects from the shots were comparable to what was seen in a study of individuals between 16-25 years of age who has received both doses.

The companies plan to submit their data to the FDA for emergency use authorization. They additionally expect data from a trial being run on the five-and-under age group by the end of the year. The vaccine is currently being given to kids 12-15 years old under an FDA emergency use authorization.
Mikivoja
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I think I made the same mistake you did this past winter when calculating the death rate of hospitalized patients. Namely, there is a difference between newly-admitted to the hospital and net hospitalizations, because there are two ways to leave the hospital. Unfortunately I don't know whether there is a dataset that contains newly admitted rather than net hospitalized because the former is always larger than the latter and thus underestimates the denominator in the death rate.
If you subtract from day to day the total number of hospitalized you will not get newly hospitalized number, because some of them would have left due to getting healthy, and that lowers the death rate, and we have no idea by how much.
Mjc1960
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Sounds like the PREP act is removing doctors ability to practice in the area of COVID. Would make you want to give up if your a doctor. Some doctors are uninformed and have drank the company kool aid.
Show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome. - Charlie Munger

My daughter is an ER doc and suffers some hospital group think but I keep planting seeds. Though they are unable to help people with an early COVID diagnosis, they do help a lot of non COVID people everyday, so quitting or getting fired helps nobody.

Anecdotal story from yesterday, an overweight black woman in her early sixties came in with an O2 sat in the 30's, jammed up lungs from COVID. Her daughter in her forties and husband are currently in the hospital on vents. Her father at home is also having bad headaches, he will probably be joining the family soon.
The doctors call these low O2 sat patients happy hypoxics, they seem OK but are on the verge of no return when they show up. This may account for some of the high mortality rate, some of the people showing up have no chance by the time they get there.
It's all very sad because early intervention, MATH+ protocol and such could change everything. This poor family did not know anything but heard vaccines are bad.
The suppression of this knowledge is the truly reprehensible act.
Fauci and his wife should be run out of government at minimum.
I heard in an interview wife Robert Malone that the FDA is 80% funded by the pharma industry, conflict of interest much.
Chris Martenson has a recent video on the numerous studies from around the world showing efficacy of Ivermectin in preventing hospitalization and death. We'll see if it stays up on youtube. There seems to be more Ivermectin info on youtube lately, this may be a signal that Fauci can no longer suppress it.
Here in the media the story is horse dewormer overdosing causing ER surge and blindness. Last ditch effort to debunk, let's hope so.
Biden and most of the people surrounding him are morons who have never done anything but politics and continue to let Fauci run cover for the pharma industry.
Hopefully the tide is about to turn on Ivermectin because the vaccines are a temporary fix at best for the the older compromised people but likely making things worse overall and in the long run.
Heads need to roll at the CDC, NIH and FDA.
Spanky
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This describes my son perfectly. We have the medical chart and an autopsy. He was negative for Covid about halfway through, that didn't kill him. It was murder by Remdesivir and medical incompetence. Good thing the hospital veered from the Prep Act formula. Any advice?
Thelazer
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I am expecting a lot of nurse and dr suicides in the upcoming months.
There is NO WAY they can live with the guilt once enough body's pile up.

Jwm_in_sb
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The key is going to be getting a portion of the vexed to Realize what is happening. It is possible because I've seen it close. The recent news stories particularly with the fda advisory committee on Friday Are creating cracks in the dam.
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Karl Denninger wrote..
They aren't looking, on purpose, and in fact people who have specifically asked for autopsies are being refused.

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FACTS THAT ARE TRIVIALLY DISCOVERABLE BUT INTENTIONALLY NOT LOOKED FOR BE DAMNED.

Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Trotsky would be proud of the Criminal Medical-Industrial Complex for their hard earned achievement for the amount of death they are directly responsible for during this Covid-19 fraud.

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Mjc1960
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@Crossthread
I'm so sorry to here that.
My condolences.
Nashville
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As Adminstrator of our prestigious local Federally-funded (out the wazoo) research hospital, I understand that you wish me to immediately order autopsies upon deceased covid patients with the possibilty of proving that our protocols (carefully following Federal guidelines, of course to avoid any nasty litigation) have ignored THE SCIENCE? Yeah, I'll get right on that!
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