@Tickerguy Off topic. Please, my forum friends, don't flag. I've made many posts/contributions to the Covid topic and others in this forum. But, I wish to thank Karl for his Primal 2 running shoes suggestion. I have 50+ on mine and find they are my favorite running shoes ever. I was wearing double socks with my Merrells but am back to barefoot in my new Primal 2 Lems. The shoes are stable and with ample protection. I run mostly on dirt but also in some bad spots with stones. The Lems are light. They feel like ballet slippers. Or, what I might imagine ballet slippers would be like ;-) Thank you Karl.