@Susanlauren

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What I think it will take to turn things around is collapse of the system (i.e., health care, supply chains, finances, education, etc.), a massive number of disability and deaths from ADE or VEI and/or outright revolt by the people.

Just wait it's coming....and sooner than you think! The proof is all around us.

As Karl has reminded us, how many businesses operate with significant extra personnel they can afford to get rid of? (Outside government) Not many!
When you add to that the complexity of modern life and supply chains and infrastructure, things can go sideways real damn fast.
All it takes is a couple of major catastrophes happening at once and thing get locked up real tight, real fast.
(Think of the interstate during Hurricanes in FL, Riots in LA, Heavy winter storms in Chicago or New York, you get the picture...)

It takes a massive coordinated effort to make everything run on time in today's world.


@Ocdawg - Gratuitous song quote time:

Hey listen don't you let them get your mind
Fill your brain with orders and that's not right.
They're playing at a game that draws you closer
Till you're living in a world that's ruled by fear.
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- Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance

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"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan