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Fumei
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If the poison is carcinogenic and the more often it is injected, the greater the chance of developing cancer, then the benefit could be that the survivors divide the spoils.
Shermanbroder
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Incept: 2020-04-25

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A lesson from Australia. A few conservative websites today posted videos of massive demonstrations in major Australian cities. Protesters overwhelmed police lines. Conservative commentators remarked: "Maybe the Australians are finally waking up. Now it's time for Americans to rebel."

The problem is I read the comments FROM AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS posted under the video. Probably 95% of the comments criticized the protesters and suggested they be arrested, fined a huge amount of money and/or sent to internment camps. The common lament was by demonstrating their resistance to lockdowns the protesters are only prolonging the lockdowns, saying this year's celebration of Christmas is in jeopardy.

I have a sinking feeling that Americans will act the same way. Once you've swallowed the government's fear propaganda hook, line and sinker, you'll support draconian efforts to restore "law and order."

Just as close family members now insist you voluntarily take the jab to protect others, be prepared for these same group of family and friends to insist that you take the jab or face the consequences of breaking the law: starvation or doing time in an internment camp.
Blackcrow
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I yelled and screamed about this for many months after reading and talking with colleagues.

I lost my privileges at one hospital and am at risk at 2 more.

I have been active in several list-serves debating these issues. Have lost friends and colleagues over this. Half of my family, including my brother, think I am nuts and refuse to visit in person unless I am jabbed like they are.

Now, everything I and many others have been saying is rolling out.

I am sooooo tempted to roll out the "Toldya So" memes.

My moral compass is wavering, Lord help me.

Hanssachs
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Incept: 2021-06-24

New York
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@invisibleSun,

Thanks for the Bloomberg article. It provides evidence of narrative collapse. I quote:
"Theres a dearth of scientific studies with concrete answers, leaving public policy makers and corporate executives to formulate plans based on fragmented information. While some are renewing mask mandates or delaying office reopenings, others cite the lack of clarity to justify staying the course."

Rhetorically, they've transformed people who are advocating for vaccines and mandates into the equivalent of George HW Bush in 1992: stay the course. Anybody who remembers that campaign, and remembers How Bush just basically rolled over and wet himself, knows what this means. Anybody who clings to the current methods is a loser.

As with Biden in Afghanistan, success has 1000 fathers, but failure is an orphan. You could be an underdog and still survive in America, but a loser is consigned to the ash heap.
Blanca
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@Hanssachs

That a vaccine reduced the symptoms for any given person is not provable. A plausible alternative statement could be that the vaccine failed and that symptoms could be reduced using drugs, like ivermectin.
Ktrosper
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TG wrote..
giant ****ing pile of dead bodies.

Yep. And the playbook they'll use ass the bodies mount is crystal clear.

The sheeple have shown themselves to be easily fooled/manipulated.
The powers that be find it politically impossible to reverse course, even now.
The powers that be can/will straight-out LIE to our faces as the bodies pile up.
Those of us in the minority, who know/speak the truth about the cause will be silenced by big media, who will simultaneously provide cover to the evil-doers pushing this catastrophe upon the world.

Rational men will increasingly find justice their way, the only way that remains, as every other means has been subverted/cut-off.


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The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
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Onelegged
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The only way out of this insanity is:

1) Natural Infection

2) Early treatment (nearly two years in and this is still, for all intents and purposes UNAVAILABLE in the U.S. The standard of treatment in this country is STILL: "You are positive for Covid 19 now go home and choke."

It still comes back to the fact that up to 85% of the deaths were preventable for a few dollars. ****ing monsters. All of them.

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Jwm_in_sb
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Wow...no **** Merlin really?!?! That's old news bruh.
Eleua
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Here is one problem.

The authorities have shown the relative slow boil works. They have walked us from "15 days to slow the spread" to waiving all FDA process for jabs that are becoming mandatory in just over a year.

They are now on full burner with this stuff, and people are pushing back, so why are they doing it?

Karl said about three weeks ago that this had about two weeks left in it. Not a bad prediction, all things considered, and it certainly looks like the official narrative is taking too many hits, so they have to get while the getting is good.




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As predicted, ivermectin is the new toilet paper. - LQ
The level of abject evil afoot in our world is well beyond everyones normalcy bias. It is incomprehensible.
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Maddmaxx
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Very interesting tweet from Berenson: a guy claiming to be an OR device rep believes the announcement of the need for boosters will swing the vaccinated into the No Mandate camp whereas before they were critical of the unvaccinated. They are realizing their jobs will be threatened eventually if they do not submit to regular boosters and they do not want the boosters. Hope this is true and they refuse en masse:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/....

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Tickerguy
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@Eleua - They're losing Bloomberg now.

Hard-left "business" publication; they also have started to lose the WSJ.

Collapse of their bull**** is underway and not far from being complete.

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Twainfan2
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@blackcrow make that sign massive and wave it everywhere you go. You deserve that privilege.

Checked out about half a dozen major vet supply sites this morning and none of them have injectable IVM in stock or won't sell it online. That includes ValleyVet and Tractor Supply. Seems word is spreading fast about it. Got the last 50ml bottle at the local shop today .. you know.. in case the cows need worming.
Omegapoint
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A little off topic but contemplate this. The same people who "planned" the "evacuation" from Afghanistan are the same type of people who have "planned" the response to Covid. Good grief, they are all incompetent. Shame on everyone who voted for the imbeciles in the White House (Biden and Harris). This is far, far worse than any "supposed" "offense" committed by Trump but yet no one will be held accountable. The incompetence on all fronts is absolutely stunning even for gov't. It's sickening.
Edwardteach
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Incept: 2021-05-01

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Quote:
That a vaccine reduced the symptoms for any given person is not provable.


Or it could simply be that by the time the shots started going into arms, the virus had already creamed off much of the people who were susceptible to serious illness and death, and now the vax-holes are claiming credit to the vaccine for something that was happening anyway.
Come to think of it, I believe Karl opined as much in a previous article.

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Onelegged
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I mentioned to a friend three days ago that it was beginning to appear that vaccinated people were contracting the virus quite regularly. I also told her that it had been proven that these folks were very efficient at spreading it as well.

"What? Vaccinated people are getting Covid? I'm calling BULL**** on that!!! (condescending smile)"

That was the end of the conversation.

The Stupid River runs deep, cold and wide.

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Jollyrogers
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Regarding therapeutics, I have the FLCCC protocol Ivm, some of which is pills, some paste, but not that particular antibiotic - and a modest amount of HCQ/Zmax.

Any info/recommendations out there for simultaneous use of Ivm and HCQ? I've seen one article recommending trials because of possible synergistic effects, but no recommendations anywhere.
Dingleberry
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Just spoke with nice some folks I know who got over covid and were homebound for the last two weeks, sickly but not enough to get admitted to the hospital.

They got the jab months ago. And since they did not get admitted, they are cool with getting the jabs. They don't seem to understand that vaccines either work or they don't. Obviously, these jabs don't and the initial claims of 90% effectiveness are pure fantasy.

The bodies can pile to the heavens and I don't think the masses will accept reality of the situation. The propaganda (lies) appear to be quite effective.

If you gonna lie....make it big.
Tickerguy
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@Jollyrogers - There's no data. There was one trial registered but it never enrolled or was run. That sucks, to be frank.

My read of the studies is that:

1. The FLCCC IMASK+ protocol is good. I see nothing in there that is contraindicated by the data available. HOWEVER, being your own doctor IS NOT SOMETHING YOU ONLY DO UNDER STRESS -- you have GOT to understand your baseline medical situation BEFORE **** goes sideways. Put in the work in advance or pay, maybe with your life, when things get dicey. I would only add to the FLCCC protocols high-rate Vitamin C as there is no medical downside to even EXTREME levels of use (other than ****ting your brains out if you go too far) and it is a known and very powerful anti-inflammatory that DOES NOT harm immune response.

2. FLCCC is neutral on budesonide. I am not as the data I've seen from the studies say it WORKS to suppress the organizing and inflammatory pneumonia (which is NOT from a bacterial co-infection) that sometimes comes with Covid-19. HOWEVER, it is unwise to hit it with that until and unless you detect that is happening because like ALL steroids it can suppress your immune response and you only WANT THAT when its at risk of going out of control AND NOT BEFORE. For dosing and such you need to READ THE STUDIES because, of course, this ain't maintenance meds. Steroids are useful BUT NOT TO BE ****ED WITH, EVER, without reason. Be aware; you get this one wrong you can make things much worse up to and including putting yourself in a pine box.

If you get into the MATH+ protocols and such (which would normally be used in hospital) you are into the weeds by definition because you do NOT have the lab support that comes from a formal medical center, and you NEED IT to make good decisions. For example: What is your d-Dimer level? You cannot GUESS, you have to KNOW because if you guess wrong, especially if you're susceptible to any sort of blood disorder to start with (which again, without labs how do you know?) you will kill yourself. Once you cross that line you're doing things that you cannot back up with knowledge that is essential to have and the odds of ****ing it up and killing yourself go WAY up. This is a real BITCH in a world where the corporate medical ****ers will NOT use protocols of that sort and will literally do nothing other than stick you on a nasal canula until you are choking to death and then shove a tube down your throat.

I do not have an answer to that problem other than do everything in your ****ing power to avoid winding up there, and accept that if you DO wind up there you better be prepared to scream LOUDLY but there's good odds you'll be ignored and they will literally KILL YOU in the hospital.

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Hedgecarey
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Here is a great link to a study from 2016 that explains the direct interaction of ADE and OAS. The context is mainly regarding Influenza and Dengue ADE/OAS but explains in some detail how it occurs and why. These details appear to be applicable to several viruses including Covid and will help to clear up some confusion between the two (ADE/OAS). Download the PDF to store and share.

https: //immunenetwork.org/DOIx.php?id=10.4110/in.2016.16.5.261
Maddmaxx
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Found this twitter this morning and it has some interesting studies. Surprise, curcumin and pomegranate are two supplements/foods that may have successful therapeutic value.

https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher

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Ktrosper
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Is this about right, Karl?
 

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The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen to occupy.-Doc Zero
I anticipate that 10 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders will blow me this evening.-K.D.
Jollyrogers
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@tickerguy

Thanks for that feedback. I am 53 and had a full set of labs run last year. Elevated LDL-P count was my only negative, but my LDL-P was heavily VLDL i.e. not harmful.

I have been able to use AFLD and Push to get Ivm and HCQ. Budesonide and other cortical steroids scare me, especially in the context of an active infection. If I get to that point, I am probably screwed because I will be in the hospital with no advocate (I live alone).

I also eat a lot or turmeric and 4 brazil nuts every day. Last year I lost 40 pounds. This year I've put almost 15 back on, but half is muscle (bought my own rack/bench/weights in late Oct last year). I run ~25 miles per week, plus some walking and 10-15km of rowing. Other than dropping 5 pounds of fat, there isn't much space left for me to improve my health.
Ceiii2000
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This is definitely a great ticker, and from the looks of things may actually be one of the first not just preaching to the choir.

As for the F word and it's use, when I read the comments I instantly thought of this. Warning: it's funny.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DScnnorHEu....
Printlife
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Incept: 2018-05-22

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Have to strongly agree that they will kill you in the hospital. When I went in due to extreme fatigue from the pneumonia following COVID, I asked many times "What is the treatment protocol?" The answer was, there is none. No infusion, nothing.

This is madness.
Scottj175
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Anecdote as to how deep the stupid runs. I shared a Tweet of @Tickerguy that links this article over on Facebook two hours ago and went to work on one of the partout cars.

I've been accused to sharing a satire site. And this by someone I'm connected with from my days as a regular commentor on Ace of Spades HQ http://ace.mu.nu/ not exactly a place populated by folks to buy the government's word hook, line and sinker. But the accuser does on this.

It's so baffles me at the number of folks in my various orbits who would reject the official story on things like the BATF Fast & Furious scandal for example take what we're told about the pandemic from the same swamp as gospel.
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