Splitbiker
34 posts, incept 2007-09-13
2021-04-28 13:40:50
@Juspooped My SO got the J&J jab about a month ago and was sick for 5 days. At that time I was curious if I had an asymptomatic infection so I got an antibody test. Interestingly it came up IgM+/IgG-. The clinician said they had never seen that before. IgM+ indicates a recent exposure and IgG indicates long term antibodies present. According to the test results: "IgM is positive, but IgG is negative: The patient is having an early phase, active COVID-19 infection." We then both had PCR tests the following day which turned up negative. Assuming both tests were accurate it seems the only way for this to happen would be for me to have "caught" the spike protein from my SO.
Survivor
36 posts, incept 2021-03-19
2021-04-28 13:41:07
I thought at the time that the Diamond Princess was the absolutely vital piece of evidence for the potential severity of what we were facing and my personal lack of fear of the virus stems from the (limited) data I was able to find about the survival rate back then. Karl has quite rightly continued to remind us of Diamond Princess. It's been buried everywhere else. I haven't seen that ship mentioned anywhere except here for a long time.
But we're on the losing side here. Brazil and India are going to make the whole world go even more crazy about this thing. Anyone who says they don't think we should be frightened of the virus, or who speaks out against vaccination or masks is heading for big trouble. Here in the UK we are inexorably moving to social scoring starting with our National Health Service app. Me, I don't care any more. I'll say and do whatever I like and I've got a strategy in place to deal with whatever comes my way, provided I get just a tiny bit of warning, which I think I will. Doesn't bother me one bit because I already decided the worst thing that could happen to me is to go into a "Care Home".
Tickerguy
195k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 13:41:26
@Splitbiker - Yep. That's exactly what it is.
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Heartlander
2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-04-28 14:16:29
@Juspooped
I love Ann B, but I'm not sure she's interpreting the language in the Pfizer document correctly. Couldn't "inhalation or skin contact" be referring just to the accidental inhalation or touching of the "vaccine" by health-care workers who are giving the shots or by workers in Pfizer's production facilities?
I know there's a lot of anecdotal stuff floating around on the internet right now, and I'm not dismissing it out of hand, but I am reserving judgment about this whole "shedding" thing until I see more evidence.
Thelazer
1k posts, incept 2009-05-11
2021-04-28 14:16:34
@Splitbiker / Ticker.
JFC.... That's scary as ****.
Fredx
64 posts, incept 2019-01-01
2021-04-28 14:16:52
That is the Best Ticker Ever Karl.
For many years I would get a bad cold at least once a year, starting with a hellish sore throat for a couple days, which morphed into blowing my nose, dragging my ass, and feeling like **** for a month while I tried to carry on with my life. My brother said he could kill a cold in one day. He said to put on some socks, sweatpants and a shirt, crawl into bed and lay there for 24 hours, drink water and orange juice, and eat oranges.
One morning in 1996 I woke up with the hellish sore throat which meant another cold was coming. I decided to try his cold cure. I laid there feeling like absolute ****. Around 4 pm I felt a shiver go through my body that lasted for about 2 seconds. After a few minutes I realized that my body didn't ache, and my throat wasn't sore, and I didn't feel like **** anymore. I laid there for another half hour, but I felt so good that I got out of bed. I never got a cold that time.
A year later I got the same killer sore throat and achy body. So I crawled into bed and laid there with my water and oranges. This time I got the 2 second shiver at about 2 pm, and instantly felt better. So I got up and never got a cold that time either.
The amazing thing is that even though my activities and lifestyle didn't change for 20 years, I have never even had a sore throat or a cold since that day in 1997. I hope there was some immunity developed through this process, because I am counting on it to repel the Covid.
Chromehill
1k posts, incept 2010-03-03
2021-04-28 14:17:20
81% immunity ties in very nicely with the CDC's stat that symptomatic spread in the household is 18%.
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Kikknback
1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2021-04-28 14:17:27
Pet Rock > Beanie Baby > SARS-CoV-2 (COVID19) Shot
Citizens have been proven to be repeatedly gullible for decades.
The first two above only cost them money while the SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) shot will cost them their lives.
This article proves Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt the Governments, Criminal Medical-Industrial Complex (CMIC), Main Stream / Social Media are all guilty of Crimes Against Humanity with this Genocide they have initiated on the innocent citizens around the world.
The Criminal Medical-Industrial Complex has transformed itself into Hyper-Weaponized Nazis(tm) to exterminate human life, polar opposite from their Hippocratic Oath they vowed to follow, "First, Do No Harm".
The knowledge of past scientific history to the dangers of the very actions these criminals have put in place, to exterminate human life, is no different from the actions the Nazis utilized to exterminate human lives when knowing what their actions would ultimately result with, death.
If freedom is to survive this Genocide, Nuremberg trials have to once again serve as the policing action to prove Rule of LAW reins above all. The U.S.A. government is now on equal footing as all Tyrant despots of the Twentieth Century who killed millions. The U.S.A. government has breached their contractual obligations they agreed to under the Constitution of the United States, and in so doing, states and citizens, having their Natural Rights to live with their freedoms intact, are fully within their legal rights to ignore all dictates coming from the now criminal enterprise of Washington, D.C. They have proven, through their actions, they abhor the Natural Birthrights all individuals are born with, and have severed their legal ties with the states and citizens through their criminal acts.
With state medical boards threatening the doctors speaking out with the truths of this Genocide by rescinding their medical licenses, politicians and media constantly spreading lying propaganda, equal to the days of Russia's Pravda Newspaper, and well written analytical articles, backed up one hundred percent (100%) with scientific evidence above, the citizens have the irrefutable evidence to take the actions needed to protect their freedoms from the psychopathic tyrannical narcissists who intend to rule over them.
The U.S.A. is a stranded ship at sea with her sails raised to the heavens, and no wind blowing. The citizens must rise up, and become the wind through their voices, and whatever else actions needed, to push their ship back on course and into the shipping lanes that freedom travels within.
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Drifter
1k posts, incept 2016-02-11
2021-04-28 14:17:48
Shedding spike protein: I'm no vet, but isn't this Marek's disease, where the vaxxed birds are shedding the virus, infecting the unvaxxed?
Ho Ree Fook. What have they done...
Tickerguy
195k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 14:18:33
No as it's not replication-competent. But since it's directly pathogenic it can still **** you up.
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Blackcrow
215 posts, incept 2021-04-04
2021-04-28 14:35:35
Not only did Karl hit it out of the park, he burned down the stadium. Damn.
Here is the money quote:
"Do you think the Chinese knew all of this up front given that their vaccines are all full-protein inactivated and thus include the nucleocapsid portion?"
Yes. If you are reading the literature for research into coronaviruses, almost all of it is by Chinese researchers. Hmm.
China has 88 million excess men due to their 1 child policy. Their entire population of 1.3 billion lives in an area the size of the US west of the Mississippi. (The entire western half of China is desert or mountains.)
Now, ask yourself why they were doing gain of function studies on a group of viruses they already had extensive knowledge of mutational rate and immunological response.
War is difficult and things get destroyed. Why not get your enemy to destroy themselves by their own fear, greed, political correctness and stupidity?
We are watching the Western world commit suicide right before our eyes.
Kokobeware
453 posts, incept 2010-05-04
2021-04-28 14:36:05
JESUS splitbiker ... this really is a bad sci-fi movie at this point.
Cr8nmake
14 posts, incept 2016-02-13
2021-04-28 14:42:53
Question for you - If you put this article in front of a doctor - an ER doctor, a cardiologist, for fun Allison Arwady who works for Pritzker and had a **** eating grin on her face last night as she was giddy about not being able to disclose the vaccine passport the city of chicago is developing to "allow people to participate in events this summer as a way to 'encourage' them to get vaccinated"
She reads this...what possible response could she or the ER doctor or someone educated in science and/or medicine say to refute what you have theorized? How could they interpret the Nature paper differently?
In other words, I read it, I read your analysis, it makes sense to me the non-scientist/non-medical professional. How can they come to a different conclusion?
To your point, if there limited other conclusions to this paper what might they be and if there is not another conclusion you are correct, anything short of stopping is criminal. I'd like to see that **** eating grin slowly go the other way when she realizes (if she didn't already) she is putting people at risk rather than helping them get exclusive access to Lollapalooza.
Obseedian
16k posts, incept 2007-07-26
2021-04-28 15:44:19
Proof the vaccination is driving cases. Same pattern playing out in other countries that are mass-vaccinating.

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Heartlander
2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-04-28 15:44:24
@Memeticdefense
Those mf'ers.
In February, driving through Houston, we saw billboards from Methodist Hospital reading "We stand behind the vaccine."
I thought to myself: defensive much?
Nadavegan
777 posts, incept 2017-05-03
2021-04-28 15:44:39
@Fredex, I do this exactly: My brother said he could kill a cold in one day. He said to put on some socks, sweatpants and a shirt, crawl into bed and lay there for 24 hours
Except I don't get a shiver, during sleep I usually will feel my body temp ascend several degrees, stay high for an hour or so, and come back down. I will wake up feeling cooled and well-rested. Next day whatever it is/was is gone.
Regarding wearing a mask in China, I was there for two weeks in 2019. Dirtiest ****hole I have ever been to. After 3 days, my throat burned constantly from the smoke and pollution. Just awful.
Purplefang
716 posts, incept 2010-03-28
2021-04-28 15:44:50
I would expect the spike protein shedding to wear off after a period of time. The cells making the protein should be killed off by the immune system.
Is the spike protein the only concern? Do we trust what we are told about the injections? Cells could be programmed to make things that the immune system sees as normal.
Tickerguy
195k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 15:44:58
Unknown.
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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Splitbiker
34 posts, incept 2007-09-13
2021-04-28 15:51:32
Is there any evidence that the Han Chinese carry a disproportionate amount of the matching T cell epitopes? Cases in Han Chinese dominant countries are extraordinarily low.
Tickerguy
195k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 15:51:41
Not at present.
Anything from China has to be presumed to be bull**** until proved otherwise.
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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Lemonaid
17k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2021-04-28 16:00:06
Nada,
Looks like he's trying to burn the virus out.
That might work but with collateral "scorched earth" damage. Would need a good immune system before hand as well.
Many many other ways to tackle upper respiratory tract viruses I'd do before that.
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