Last night I offered two motions for consideration during the regular bi-weekly meeting of the Florida Libertarian Party's Executive Committee.
I want to go over them and challenge people who are, or might be Libertarian, to think about these issues and then contact members of the Florida EC with your opinions.
The first dealt with financial fraud. As I'm sure everyone is aware I have long held that until financial fraud is punished as the crime that it is we will never have a strong economy -- or a level economic playing field. Yet fraud has become a business model for our financial sector, and the average person has been the victim of that fraud -- serially and outrageously for the last two decades.
As a result I offered the following motion:
Whereas the manipulation of LIBOR for several years surrounding the 2007/2008, both before and after the crisis, is increasingly being shown to have been an organized activity by major financial institutions;
Whereas this manipulation appears to have taken place with the knowledge of both the banks involved and Central Banks, including The Federal Reserve;
Whereas this manipulation has been documented as taking place for the purpose of making "profits" within the banks involved in a multi-hundred-trillion dollar interest rate derivative market;
Whereas derivatives, by their inherent mathematical nature, have an equal loser for each winner;
Whereas there is now evidence emerging that the average family with a $100,000 mortgage may have been damaged to the tune of between $50-100 per month during the time in question;
Whereas such manipulation, if proved, would be the largest theft of money in the history of the planet from not only the citizens of the United States but indeed on a world-wide basis, in fact being a theft totaling in excess of $100 billion annually in the United States alone;
Therefore be it resolved that:
1. The Libertarian Party of Florida hereby calls on all political candidates to demand a full and public investigation of the alleged manipulation of LIBOR, and that all parties found to be involved in willful and intentional manipulation of the LIBOR rate be fully exposed to both civil and criminal penalty, and that 100% restitution to all persons so harmed be made from both corporate and personal resources of each and every person or institution so-involved.
2. Any Libertarian candidate running in a race in which Florida voters may cast ballots who fails to so demand within 30 (thirty) days of the passage of this motion, or who fails to carry through to the fullest extent of the powers of office should he or she be elected, shall have his affiliate and/or parent party, as well as his campaign, brought before the membership at the next annual business meeting per the Standing Rules (Article VII, Section 5 and 6) for a vote to permanently disavow all further support of the party and/or candidate who so refuses for cause as a willful violator of the Party Non-Aggression Principle.
During debate on the motion a hostile amendment was offered to strike clause (2), thereby eviscerating any penalty from the resolution. In other words, the EC decided, by majority and recorded vote, that the resolution would turn from something with potential for enforcement by formal removal of support to one that is simply a "we don't like this" sort of feel-goodism.
Please note that Party Standing Rules prohibit the EC (or its committees) from disavowing a national candidate, the national party itself or its platform other than at the Annual Business Meeting by vote of the membership. This clause is proper and I support it; a decision of that sort is serious and potentially explosive in the political realm, and should not be undertaken for light, transient causes nor upon the caprice of just a few people. Rather, it is properly reserved to the general membership where it can be noticed in advance of the meeting and properly debated.
Nonetheless the removal of the penalty clause, after which the motion passed, renders the motion nothing more than a "love note" for national candidates and races. (It does, I note, remain "active" for state and federal races specifically under State Party auspices, as the EC could revoke vetting and/or endorsement without a full vote of the membership, although again without a penalty clause there's little to fear from the resolution itself.)
I fully expect Governor Johnson (and, likely, other candidates -- with the probable exception of Calen Fretts) to ignore it.
The second motion dealt with the same sort of problem within the party's position on immigration. The Florida Party platform is silent on the issue. However, the State Platform incorporates the national platform by reference and in its entirety. A recent DHS report, which I Tickered, provided evidence that legal immigrants are to a large degree at least eligible for various welfare and other social spending programs -- and are using them.
The problem here is that the National Libertarian Platform also calls for an end to these social welfare programs. That's all well and fine, but everyone knows that this is not the world we live in -- and may not be the world we ever live in. The reality of political action is that one also never gets everything you want, nor is it realistic to expect such an outcome. As such when you state a political plank that in some way intertwines with another issue or principle, you must include the conditionality that is required to prevent abuse or you will simply get the abuse.
As such I offered the following motion:
Whereas the LPF platform includes under Section XIII the National Libertarian Platform;
Whereas The National Platform, Section 3.4, states: "We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.";
Whereas open borders, as defined above, have led to on a documented basis in the last year, 76% of all immigrants granted permanent residency having no documented occupation and, excluding children, fully half of those granted permanent residence status are adults and a net drain on the social fabric of our society; (ref: http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR11.shtm);
Whereas the free flow of persons to where government handouts are available has a documented record by the government's own statistics of depressing employment and wages in our nation, and in fact those adults granted green cards are unemployed at a rate four times that of the general population;
Whereas the forced transfer of funds from one person to another via these social programs is in fact theft and thus a direct violation of the Non-Aggression Principle;
Therefore, be it resolved that:
1. The LPF shall upon passage of this motion send a letter of condemnation recommending to the National Party insisting that it modify its statement on open borders such that open borders are a goal to be enacted only if and when all social support programs that effect forced transfers of funds in the form of entitlements and welfare are first removed, citing the government statistics above, and that until this change takes place immigration controls designed to prohibit the exploitation of taxpayer-funded entitlements and welfare by immigrants are unfortunately both appropriate and necessary;
and
2. Should the National Party refuse to modify its position on open borders on or prior to the next annual business meeting a motion shall be heard on the calendar at that meeting to disavow the Immigration Plank of the National Platform under Standing Rules Article VII, Section 6.
This turned out to be considerably more-contentious. After friendly amendments the language was lightly modified to read as above (changes as highlighted in blue), which I had no quarrel with.
Then a motion was raised to suspend the motion until the next meeting, which passed, ending consideration until two weeks from last night.
Now here's the problem that our Party has, and which I argue it must resolve.
We refuse to take on the tough linkages and issues that we have in our positions as a party, and as a consequence we're not taken seriously.
For example (and this is not an exhaustive list):
The Libertarian Party has the opportunity to offer a true alternative to the present two-party system. It has a message which can be powerful and which can win elections.
But much of that power and empowerment is lost when the party ducks issues such as fraud and felony in the financial system, a major cause of the recession we have been in since 2007.
It's even worse when necessary conditionality is ignored and simple-minded policy pronouncements are made without regard for how we got into the mess we're in today.
We cannot continue down the path we are on -- economically or socially. For the Libertarian Party to take the lead on policy where it both can and should it must insist on the conditionality of policy that respects the party Non-Aggression Principle without fear, favor, or exception.
After all, it's the "exceptions" that have led to the manipulation of interest rate indices and what is arguably the largest theft in the history of mankind, the loss of over 2 million homes in the United States, two serial stock market crashes in a decade and ridiculous debasement of American purchasing power.
I call upon Libertarians everywhere to contact the Florida Libertarian Party Executive Committee members and urge it to pass Motion LP 120712-50, suspended until the Executive Committee meeting of 7/29, and to take up upon motion re-instatement of the penalty clause in the "Motion In Support of Honest Markets" that was struck during Executive Committee debate on 7/15.
Karl Denninger is an at-large Executive Committee member of the Florida Libertarian Party. The opinions expressed are his own.

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Mannfm11 Posts: 3556 Incept: 2009-02-28
DFW, Tx
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Libertarian is a question of economics. Though I can't say I disagree with your policy Karl, the very idea of using coercion is anti-libertarian. The whole pile of **** would merely be shut down in a libertarian world, as there won't be a LIBOR to manipulate. This is a political question, clearly. Who owns the money in our pockets should be divorced from politics, which is why true libertarians are gold bugs. The government doesn't, in general, mine gold.
Rothbard wrote a discovery on Milton Friedman, generally recognized by many as the free market saint. He was a statist to the nth degree. Rothbard finished with these 2 paragraphs (Friedman invented the modern FSA and he came up with getting the taxes out of our checks before we got the checks. He also invented the concept of Bernankeism, the theft of money from the people for the benefit of bankers and the state. Merely a Keynesian of another color. But it is in the macro sphere, unwisely hived off from the micro by economists who remain after sixty years ignorant of Ludwig von Mises’s achievement in integrating them, it is here that Friedman’s influence has been at its most baleful. For we find Friedman bearing heavy responsibility both for the withholding tax system and for the disastrous guaranteed annual income looming on the horizon. At the same time, we find Friedman calling for absolute control by the State over the supply of money—a crucial part of the market economy. Whenever the government has, fitfully and almost by accident, stopped increasing the money supply (as Nixon did for several months in the latter half of 1969), Milton Friedman has been there to raise the banner of inflation once again. And wherever we turn, we find Milton Friedman, proposing not measures on behalf of liberty, not programs to whittle away the Leviathan State, but measures to make the power of that State more efficient, and hence, at bottom, more terrible. The libertarian movement has coasted far too long on the intellectually lazy path of failing to make distinctions, or failing to discriminate, of failing to make a rigorous search to distinguish truth from error in the views of those who claim to be its members or allies. It is almost as if any passing joker who mumbles a few words about “freedom” is automatically clasped to our bosom as a member of the one, big, libertarian family. As our movement grows in influence, we can no longer afford the luxury of this intellectual sloth. It is high time to identify Milton Friedman for what he really is. It is high time to call a spade a spade, and a statist a statist. http://mises.org/journals/jls/16_4/16_4_.... ---------- The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
2012-07-16 11:26:28
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Salt Posts: 192 Incept: 2010-05-28 NC
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I call upon Libertarians everywhere to contact the Florida Libertarian Party Executive Committee members and urge it to pass Motion LP 120712-50
Seems a lot like 'write your congressman and demand that ...' Really Karl, how's it working so far? Pointing out the truth? Is anyone really paying attention?
2012-07-16 11:30:13
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Genesis Posts: 130798 Incept: 2007-06-26
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Actually, it is working. It's a hard, slow slog but progress is in fact being made.
If I discern that this path is fruitless I will abandon it, but until that decision comes I will attempt to solve problems as I discern them. ---------- I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
2012-07-16 11:39:58
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Kalez Posts: 6 Incept: 2011-10-26
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Karl, at this point. I would suggest a form of Broken Windows Theory toward financial crimes. Nobody is pushing such tactics and I think overall it would be a winner. Politicians aren't even running on putting the banksters away. Good for you with pushing some reform and LIBOR issues at the meetings though.
2012-07-16 12:06:10
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Brian_cali Posts: 182 Incept: 2011-10-22
San Francisco
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I have to agree with Mann (and I'm a Lib Party member myself).
A few thoughts per policy plank: 1) If restricting the free movement of persons is an acceptable compromise, why not restriction of the right to reproduce as well? After all, whether the new resident is a 40-year-old from Guatemala, or a newborn that some US citizen had, it's still a license to steal from my bank account, right? (That's how "compromise" positions quickly turn into new statism, BTW). Nay, I'd rather be free and bankrupt than "saved from financial meltdown" and imprisoned by regulation. 2) You should talk to a few gay people and really engage on the marriage issue, a bit more, Karl. The issue is far more complex than the way you paint it. Obviously, it would be best if the state (federal, state and local alike) got out of the family definition business altogether -- except as a record-keeper and adjudicator of contracts -- but ironically, your immigration plank also necessitates state involvement in family definition (otherwise, how would a US citizen bring his foreign-born partner and children back home with him?) 3) Yes, countries don't play fair in international trade. It's a lot like markets in the USA. Microsoft gained a dominant position in technology -- operating systems, productivity software, and the web -- based on leveraging the Windows monopoly it built up in the 1990s. Apple whined about this for years and then set about building an even bigger monopoly in digital music, content, and connected devices built off of its original iPod monopoly. A new trader coming into the computer or mobile markets would have NO chance of success because it's not really a "free market." Yet government intrusion into the space, ala Microsoft, did nothing to stop the monopoly (but did ensure a stagnant decade of innovation in PCs from 2000 to 2010 as Microsoft avoided too many new, cool things lest they summon the ire of the DOJ again). Free markets aren't some magical thing where everyone competes on a level playing field. They're a system of voluntary exchange. Just as Apple or Microsoft will use tools available to them to succeed and tilt the field, so will China or India or Britain or indeed the USA. One way to solve all three of these conundrums is a concept I call "trade reciprocity." Immigration is a form of trade. Labor, capital, goods and services are trade. The USA could get a much freer market (and lower government spending to boot) by implementing trade reciprocity -- we treat your immigrants, products, services, etc. the way you treat ours. When I lived in the UK, the British press was full of whining when the H1-B limit was hit one year and poor Oxfordians had to wait three or four months before moving into their posh apartments overlooking central park to take hot jobs at Lehman, Bear and Goldman. Meanwhile, poor Yankee sods like myself had our status constantly under threat. I told the whiners that they had no idea how bad it was on this side, and they replied "that's the way it should be -- you should feel lucky we allow you to work here." OK, great. Let's take the British protocol, law, documents, processes and processing time and impose them on all British nationals seeking to work in the USA. A reciprocal standard that alters based on how the Brits (or anybody else) treats us. Americans can get off the plane and find a job in London without a visa? Great, Brits can do the same here. Americans have to fill out 300 pages of forms, go through a two-year waiting period, and pay $10K? Awesome. The USA will create forms just for Britons, which are nothing more than the UK forms with a US logo on top, and impose exactly the same standards. China wants to impose a 100% tariff on US-made cars? Great! All Chinese cars get the same treatment. And so on. Political pressure in home markets would quickly change those policies so that Canadians, Britons, Aussies and other nationalities who are accustomed to easy access to US markets and a protected market at home could continue to trade. And Americans would get more opportunities. Government would also get a lot smaller, a lot faster.
2012-07-16 12:10:51
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Donethat Posts: 771 Incept: 2009-04-22
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RICO the FRB and the banks ....
2012-07-16 12:18:11
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Genesis Posts: 130798 Incept: 2007-06-26
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Quote:The USA could get a much freer market (and lower government spending to boot) by implementing trade reciprocity -- we treat your immigrants, products, services, etc. the way you treat ours. That is what I am advocating the Libertarian Party adopt! ---------- I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
2012-07-16 12:18:52
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Bagbalm Posts: 4263 Incept: 2009-03-19
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I'm trying to figure out why you feel any affinity for these hand wringing old women. I mean, they obviously want to be seen as different. As long as they don't offend anyone.
If everything is qualified as what should be done in theory, but no hard stand, then you know as soon as you elect them they are going to screw you and go with the lobbyists. When has it not happened?
2012-07-16 13:06:38
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Mannfm11 Posts: 3556 Incept: 2009-02-28
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Why fool with the market at all. You solve trade problems by going back to settling accounts. Corporate USA created this monster, not the Chinese. China was built on the credit bubble of the 1990's and prospered through the housing booms of the 2000's. The USA will never legislate the massive costs the statists have put on production in the USA. The Chinese economy operates in a vaccuum, due to its system of debt, their only need to acquire more dollars. Like most Asian systems, it will eventually implode. The piling up of credit debt, perceived to be savings, is merely a pile up of mispriced assets, like empty apartment buildings and cities. They will fail trying to support their bubbles just as we will. One statist action likely isn't going to fix the problems with the other. No one has the guts to repeal the nonsense, because it would upset the status quo, cut of the flow of funds to statist crooks and***** off the FSA. Get rid of the FSA and the trade problem solves itself, though we likely go into a worldwide depression. Otherwise, we all become debt peons.
---------- The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
2012-07-16 14:27:35
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Eighty6thebs Posts: 4183 Incept: 2007-06-26
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I would not have supported this "or who fails to carry through to the fullest extent of the powers of office should he or she be elected".
That sounds like a subjective charge that could be leveled against anyone not matter how hard they pressed. ---------- "Sounds to me like you guys a couple of bookies" - Billy Ray Valentine
"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!" - Iraqi Information Minister
2012-07-16 15:35:02
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Genesis Posts: 130798 Incept: 2007-06-26
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It's up to the membership to judge 86 -- that's the point.
Under the Standing Rules the EC cannot impose the sanction against a national party candidate (e.g. Johnson); they can only recommend that the membership do so. The judgment of guilt (or not) belongs to the membership, not the EC. All we can do is make the referral and recommendation. ---------- I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
2012-07-16 16:07:54
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Asimov Posts: 104066 Incept: 2007-08-26
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Not sure if you're aware or not, but the trade reciprocity thing was used extensively in two of tom clancy's books. Once against japan (debt of honor) and then against china (the bear and the dragon.)
Makes for interesting reading. ---------- It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.
If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
2012-07-24 07:33:47
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