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User Info	To The Tea Party (And Related Organizations); entered at 2010-08-29 18:47:55
Eleua Posts: 23724 Registered: 2007-07-05 N 47.72/ W 122.55	I applaud your optimism. Really, I do. My entire premise (stated in one form or another on every posting) is that the Dems are not going to take the fiscal issues lying down. They will be forced to change the status quo in the campaign. They can't on fiscal issues, so what's left? Watch this October and see for yourself. The "racism" dog isn't hunting like it used to, so what else do they have? Everyone is correct that in an ideal environment the Conservative should stick to the fiscal issues. If I were running, I would try to do exactly that. I'd do my best to throw it back in their faces. In my hypothetical race, Inslee (a liberal Dem) is getting beat by me 53/47 with two weeks to go. I'm creaming him on fiscal issues. In a debate, he injects God, Guns, Gays, Abortion...I'd throw it right back and say that the electorate isn't interested in your social agenda, but they are tired of having their pockets picked to pick up the damage for such. Yeah, that's what I'd say if I were on the same stage. Now, the Seattle media (imagine where they tilt) runs ads and hit pieces on those 4 issues. I have to run ads in response or I risk losing the enthusiasm of my base and energizing his, not to mention scaring off the middle. You can only win on the "middle" if the bases are comparable in size and energy. If you have an advantage in base support (both size and energy) you have a stronger hand. Regarding "losing" on my beliefs... Please cite the elections the GOP has lost by courting the cultural conservatives. (I'm not saying they have not). Please cite the elections the cultural conservatives made the margin of victory for the GOP. You can't tell 2/3 of your base to STFU, send money, vote for who we tell you to, and accept what is given and expect to win. One fact, sad or not, is that the cultural conservatives have shown they will sit on their hands rather than vote for tone deaf "conservatives." Full disclosure: I didn't hear the discussions at the Niceville TP gathering, so I don't know what was said. In what I have read about other TP gatherings, the issues have been pretty much fiscal in nature, even though the bulk of those in attendance probably had very strong cultural/religious beliefs. At the Inslee Town Hall last year, there were many that were against what he was saying. Most were somewhat religious in nature but the dialogue was confined to fiscal issues. It just seems to me that we are trying to win by telling our base to STFU. My experience is that the conservative base wants to campaign on fiscal issues but isn't interested in socially progressive candidates. That's not exactly hard to understand. The political reality is that fiscal conservatism and social conservatism tend to go hand in hand. Fiscal irresponsibility tends to be necessitated by horrid social policy. 2010-08-29 18:47:55