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Bzelbob
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@Susanlauren
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What I think it will take to turn things around is collapse of the system (i.e., health care, supply chains, finances, education, etc.), a massive number of disability and deaths from ADE or VEI and/or outright revolt by the people.

Just wait it's coming....and sooner than you think! The proof is all around us.

As Karl has reminded us, how many businesses operate with significant extra personnel they can afford to get rid of? (Outside government) Not many!
When you add to that the complexity of modern life and supply chains and infrastructure, things can go sideways real damn fast.
All it takes is a couple of major catastrophes happening at once and thing get locked up real tight, real fast.
(Think of the interstate during Hurricanes in FL, Riots in LA, Heavy winter storms in Chicago or New York, you get the picture...)

It takes a massive coordinated effort to make everything run on time in today's world.


@Ocdawg - Gratuitous song quote time:smiley

Hey listen don't you let them get your mind
Fill your brain with orders and that's not right.
They're playing at a game that draws you closer
Till you're living in a world that's ruled by fear.
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- Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance

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Nadavegan
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"Electing them is like being given a credit card and being told it was prepaid, only finding out later, after it was maxed out, interest is 30% and we are taking it out of your check."

The place where it is being taken out is not our checks, it is rather darker and more private, a place where the sun rarely shines.
Tsherry
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This woman was so unhinged it was surreal. Since the proceedings are recorded, I plan on filing a formal complaint against her; but wow. I would bet serious money that the clot shot ****ed up her brain. The more people that take the ****, the more us normal's are going to have to deal with this type of insanity everywhere.


Liberalism is a mental disorder. I believe that 80% of government employees are liberals. So, there you go.
Wifi
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CFP, linked this ticker, site is getting hammered again.

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Heartlander
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@Horseyhefler

You might try sending stuff via Telegram or Signal, which, to my knowledge, do not censor. Of course, your friends have to be on those apps too.
Mrdef
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A large defense company I work for are being quiet (except for the mask mandate) about their plans for the jab mandate. I hope they won't be as woke as Raytheon but I expect it will be once new contracts with DoD come to the front.
Kikknback
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Susanlauran wrote..
1) I am not hopeful that this COVID travesty and great evil will be righted or remedied by the courts at any level.

2) What I think it will take to turn things around is:
a) collapse of the system (i.e., health care, supply chains, finances, education, etc.),
b) a massive number of disability and deaths from ADE or VEI and/or
c) outright revolt by the people.
d) [TBD]

1) John Roberts re-writing the ACA law proves your theory correct.

2) There is a "d)" too.

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Kikknback
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Susanlauran wrote..
After all of the publicity as to adverse vaxx events, I am astounded that people are choosing their jobs (and finances) over their health and their lives.

They are discounting the vaxx risks. "That won't happen to me." "Adverse vaxx reactions are rare, don't ya know." And if nothing goes wrong in the next week(s) or months(s), the "unrelated to the vaxx" cancer diagnosis or stroke or heart attack six months later/ post vaxx will be "just one of those things." No relation at all to the vaxx, I am sure.

They control the whole of ALL forms of Media to brainwash the citizens with fear and lies.

They have now made the fear from the possible loss of a citizen's home the ramp into the boxcar.

If this Winter brings massive deaths, I'm afraid there is no time to get ahead of that with any type of media campaign to save the citizens due to non-access.

Forums like this just don't have the "reach" needed, even though it is the 100% truth.


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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you without standing up in its defense" - me

"True Freedom can never exist, unless true Rule of LAW exists" - me
Cluelessinfl
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Patentleathershoes wrote..
I doubt the large major contractors will fight it


No way in hell they're gonna risk the Government Sow pulling her teat away and giving it to another piglet.

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Tritumi
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In light of airlines requiring jabs, as well, of course, as armed forces, pilots are at risk.

https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/09/affi....

Lt Col Theresa Long is a hero. From the motion:

19. Aircrew Training Program (ATP) 5-19, 1-8. Accept No Unnecessary Risk, states, An unnecessary risk is any risk that, if taken, will not contribute meaningfully to mission accomplishment or will needlessly endanger lives or resources. Army leaders accept only a level of risk in which the potential benefit outweighs the potential loss.

20. Research shows that most individuals with myocarditis do not have any symptoms. Complications of myocarditis include dilated cardiomyopathy, arrhythmias, sudden cardiac death and carries a mortality rate of 20% at one year and 50% at 5 years. According to the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine, despite optimal medical management, overall mortality has not changed in the last 30 years.

24. ....As aircrew Training Program (ATP) 5-19, 1-8 states we shall: Accept No Unnecessary Risk. An unnecessary risk is any risk that, if taken, will not contribute meaningfully to mission accomplishment or will needlessly endanger lives or resources. Army leaders accept only a level of risk in which the potential benefit outweighs the potential loss. From a risk management assessment perspective, with no long-term safety data regarding these five issues, this is an unacceptable risk management risk.

The brief is a model of logic and truth.

The Courts are on trial.
Tickerguy
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Ehhhh.... except @Tritumi don't read the entire thing. It sadly veers off into tin which really, really makes me unhappy.

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Tonythetiger
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Got an email from company HR today which said they were waiting on official guidance from the many government sites they support. There was a NOTE at the end which suggested that (their interpretation) the mandate would apply to the entire company as soon as one contract was changed and took effect.

So, renegotiate contract X, award it/renew it, and now the remaining 100+ contracts are also included and covered by the mandate?

Don't know how that can hold water legally, but who knows what might happen these days. I'm still hoping for my work to last until October 2022.

But ... just in case, today I started tidying up my work area with an eye toward bringing home my personal stuff a bit at a time. When I get it down to things I can pick up and carry out in less than a minute, I'll be ready for the hammer to fall.

I don't hold anything against the people I work with, but when the time comes for me to leave I won't be coming back. Told my government 'boss' that already. I have exactly zero interest in filling out another SF-86. Anybody who's been there knows what I mean.

Hey TG, when the time eventually comes I wonder if I could borrow a 'flying ****' from you to hand them on my way out the door? I've run out.

Naaaahhh. Never mind. smiley


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Bluto
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This is like a high-stakes game of poker. The deep state is slowly, but surely accomplishing their goals of "vaccinating" as many Americans as possible, for very nefarious reasons.

This latest ploy will result in many on our side losing their jobs either by quitting or getting fired.

So how to respond?

1) Start new independent businesses . This won't work for most folks, but there is a small but significant percentage for whom it will work

2) Hire back on with your former employer as a "consultant" for 3X the pay

3) Take cash out of the bank and sit it out

4) Early retirement (going Galt)

5) Get involved in resisting the communists through the political system.

One risk is finding yourself in hyper-inflation without a job. A large nest egg can become worthless in a short amount of time, however such an event also comes at great political risks to the ruling regime.


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Tritumi
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@TickerGuy, in the section labeled OPINION, she falls on her sword. However, I am not seeing the tin and certainly welcome understanding your objection.
Jw.
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I think economic collapse is the overall objective (while milking that last bits of wealth from the system for personal gain).

The get jabbed or quit your job stuff, the mass vaccine deaths, covid deaths (with possible ade deaths on the way), non-stop money printing, larger and larger spending bills being passed, debt ceiling raised by favored spending/political deals, supply chain and inflation issues as a result, rising home prices, rising taxes, IRS surveillance on small banking transaction, social division tactics, political division tactics, more and more censorship by big tech... To name a few.

Tickerguy
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@Tritumi - In an affidavit you do not state OPINION. You state FACT.

As soon as you go into the weeds you lose.

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Tritumi
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@TG, true of course, for ordinary depositions.

She is providing, (or is claiming to, hence the numerous background references), Expert Witness testimony. Does she met the test for that status?

If not, her opinions have little merit nor deserve standing.
Mannfm11
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If there is informed consent, what the hell is wrong with outright informed refusal? According to international law, you have a right to refuse, without inducement or duress. They tried the NAZI's under this principal. Anyone paying attention knows safe and effective is a pile of bull****. It is neither, unless you are going to take one every week that is ahead of the mutations, an impossibility. We know there are dangers, but no one knows the limits of danger, which could very well be extreme. The fact, of the matter is, we really don't know the long term dangers of all the jabs they have been pushing, for decades. Obviously, they wouldn't tell us, if they did. All I know is life expectancy is declining and the number of pills taken is going up.

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Quantum
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He can, however, directly mess with federal employees. They are now subject to counseling effective 11/8:

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2021/1....
Tickerguy
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Meh.

There's a reason I would never work directly for the Federal Government.

You now see the reason.

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Bluto
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@Quantum

Funny how they have a "discipline process" for federal workers refusing the clot shot, but ignore all laws with regard to illegals?

The GOP platform in 2024 should include firing everyone of the **********s who took the clot shot. Every. Single. One.

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Quantum
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@Bluto It's actually even worse. There's a process for a fed who fails, ie, gets low performance ratings, then can't perform effectively at their performance improvement plan and is given a notice of removal. Those employees are given a Discontinued Service Retirement, basically an early retirement offer. This if they are at least 50 with 20 years of service (although primarily intended for RIFs, it is also available to people removed for performance-related reasons). This gets them an immediate non-age-reduced pension and they even get a supplement to make up for what Social Security would pay if they were 62 (those payments will be reduced or eliminated if they get another job). They can maintain their health insurance, with the feds picking up the same proportion of the premium as when they were working. That's about as good as it gets when you are terminated because you can't perform.

For the same feds who decline vaccination: nothing. They'll get their pension when they hit minimum retirement age, but for someone who is 50 with 20 years of service, they will have to wait until age 60 to get one that is not age-reduced (and will never get the supplement).

The screaming child has an extreme nasty streak. He also wants dishonorable discharge for unvaxxed members of the military.

Bluto
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@Quantum The screaming child has an extreme nasty streak

This was perhaps the most disturbing thing about Biden that I noticed when he was running for President. I've never seen an American president (or even a significant candidate) speak ill of or condescendingly to the American people on a repeated basis. Some of them might have slipped up and done it once in a while, or perhaps even felt that way but hid it well. But with Biden, it is part of his DNA.

Getting in people's faces when campaigning, poking his finger into people's chest, "lying dog faced pony solider", walking aggressively towards the press when asked an "unapproved" question. And so on. He genuinely hates this country and hates Americans.

There is no question where Hunter gets all of this "qualities" from....

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Uwe
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Susanlauren wrote..
After all of the publicity as to adverse vaxx events, I am astounded that people are choosing their jobs (and finances) over their health and their lives.

According to the MSM and their "experts", adverse events are extremely rare, and even when they occur, they are unlikely to have long-term ramifications. So that is what most people believe.

The difference between the USSR and America today is that people in the USSR knew they were being lied to.

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"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church pew, and even whether you are allowed to leave your house.
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