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Niti
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Just spoke with a friend in Pittsburgh who has a large "dental" practice and knows many nurses. They have told him that there are vaccinated individuals with covid in the hospitals that are not doing well. He got the vax but he's honest about what he's hearing out there.
Susanlauren
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@Comolder. I would not take anything during pregnancy except a good multi-vitamin/ prenatal supplement as recommended by my OB. The vitamin supplement needs to contain Niacin to help prevent neural tube defects such as spina bifida. For women with asthma, thyroid issues, blood disorder, diabetes, etc. - they should consult their treating specialist along with their OB and follow medical advice. Less is more. Get plenty of rest. Get out in the sunshine. Walk. Control stress. Given the infection risk these days, it probably wouldn't hurt to limit large gatherings and stay away from crowds. Eat healthy non-processed foods. Very important: a woman who is pregnant should NOT clean the cat litter box! Or come in contact with it. Someone else in the family needs to take on that task. That would be my best advice. I have experience working with high risk pregnancy. I hope this helps.
Pseudofed
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Another possibility, and this may not be a popular one, is that the resurgence we are seeing in a lot of places is a result of reopening. Dramatically crushing social interaction can actually bring R_t down a lot, and in fact it is undesirable precisely because it can actually bring R_t down a lot -- not just because you want broad natural immunity to develop, but because you bring down R_t by killing yourself and your country. I even think good masks sometimes play a role. Obviously there is aerosol and oral-fecal transmission, but I'm not sure that good masks don't somewhat reduce the exposure dosage, and somewhat reducing the exposure dosage is associated with a milder disease on average.

None of this is to say either masks or lockdowns were a good idea, just that they may have worked for the very myopic ends for which they were used, and we are reaping a more acute version of what was always in store for us had we continued with life as normal.

I think average social interaction has been increasing very rapidly over the past 3 months. I easily see about double as many people on a daily basis as I did in March or April, and the people I see themselves see many more people, and much of it is indoors. Until recently R_t was suppressed and cases are rising now that that suppression has been released. That is a good thing, and if it is so then it is inevitable.
Susanlauren
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@Hobbled. I am not sure if anyone knows the answer to your question. I think America Front Line doctors, Dr. McCollough, Dr. Korey and others are trying to find answers as to whether anything can help mitigate the adverse side effects and consequences to those who have already been vaxxed. Obviously if they had done long term research studies, there would likely be answers. But alas, to our knowledge, there are no such studies. Had there been such studies, these death jabbs never would have been approved for use. I suppose it couldn't hurt to take any measure that would boost the immune system. Vitamins, supplements, FLCCC protocols. I suppose it couldn't hurt to eat clean healthy non-processed foods, to get out into the sunshine and to exercise. But God only knows and the results as to how people are impacted may well be dependent upon individual health status and individual variables. It seems to me that each successive jabb/ vaxx only increases the risk of adverse reactions and long term consequences.
Blanca
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And now this. Data out of Israel - "if you are at the age of 60 and above there is almost no difference between being vaccinated or not. You have the same chances of getting the disease."

https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/14....
Invisiblesun
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Maryland
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None of this tyranny would be possible without the ability of the government to print unlimited money. The money pays off the citizenry to accept lockdowns and it pays off corporations who know any money handed out will be captured by them.

Fascism is Socialism and Socialism is Marxism before the opposition has been fully silenced.

I don't expect freedom in the USA to die quietly. As bad cat explains, the next round of lockdowns will go up against a dozen or more states that will be fully open. The comparisons will be much easier to make.

But will that visibility matter in occupied states? I'm not sure. Consider the new narrative. They say Delta is being caused by the unvaccinated! They are not blaming crowds. Apparently crowds are ok in 2021.

And so old lies are shelved, temporarily, and new lies are crafted. The key is to keep lying and to swamp the citizenry with lies. The purpose is to prevent the citizenry from ever reaching agreement of who is lying and who is their oppressor.

Thanks KD for being a warrior. For researching the science and the history and for providing this platform to educate, engage and inform.

Bluto
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Florida
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@Pseudofed

Nice chart, but are those patients admitted BECAUSE of the China virus, or patients there for other stuff, and who just happen to test positive?

Despite the "case" rate being above what it was in January for Florida, the "death" rate is 1/5th or lower what it was. This is consistent with what has always happened with these viruses as they mutate: more transmissible, but less dangerous.

I wonder how many of those "middle aged" and "younger" people going to the hospital are suffering from WIMPS (Weakened IMmune Performane Syndrome) due to not exercising their immune system for the last 18 months by hiding under a table? And how many also choose poorly by eating more junk food during the last 18 months, thus increasing their susceptibility to the virus?

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Bluto
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Florida
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@Pseudofed

Can you have them also plot deaths on the same chart using dashed lines? And combine the age groups into 20-year instead of 10-year bands to make it less cluttered with the additional data?

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Boughtthefarm
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@Cmoledor

Can't say about pregnant women, but I give ivermectin to pregnant cattle all the time, no problem.
Nadavegan
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The South
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Data from Florida looks like the shots are not just worthless, but exacerbating.
Heartlander
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Kansas
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It's hard to explain this situation without saying it was intentional. The denial of existing drugs, the dangerous, irresponsible "vaccines", and the silencing of critics. In my mind it all points to a nefarious plan from the beginning, more than just about money.

@Homer for the win!

I'm glad people are finally waking up to this.

If you want to REALLY wake up all the way, watch this:

https://www.brighteon.com/ad8653dc-fe21-....
Grf
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Some other observations:
1. Healthy 35 year old sales engineer. Got the jab. 3 ****ing weeks later has acute heart failure. 3 months in the ICU. Just got a heart transplant.
2. Healthy 60 year old software architect. Played soccer and could outrun most of us. Took the jab. Stone dead of a stroke a week later.

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"Every time we on TF talk about God and gays, God frees a banker and gives him a bonus." --me
"Your farts are interstate commerce and if they want to stick a muffler up your ass they will do it." --Boughtthefarm
Heartlander
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Kansas
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@Tickergroupie

Are you talking about this?
https://seemorerocks.is/luc-montangier-w....

Holy ****ing ****. If I survive this ****, I guess my job for the rest of my days will be to raise a few of the millions of orphans that will be left behind. (That is, if their parents didn't jab them, too, like the parents at Jonestown.)
Twainfan2
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MN
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On the Florida data... too bad it's not broken down by vax status. I'd bet most of those are fully vaxxed. Also, it appears they still aren't using IVM or Budesonide. If they were, I don't see why they'd have so many hospitalizations.
Dnomsed
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*Vaxxed 'know' they have less severe symptoms - Prove this assertion*

Hypothesis
The vaxxed have more severe symptoms than unvaxxed when they contract cv19.

Challenge
Using the data, disprove this hypothesis.
Dnomsed
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https://laotiantimes.com/2021/08/03/auth....

Citizen push-back. Good for them.
Bluto
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Incept: 2021-07-10

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The rest of the nation is 2 to 4 weeks behind Florida. Expect a large push for "forced" vaccinations as the case rates increase in the communist states.

The big narrative right now is "99% of hospitalizations/deaths are unvaccinated". They are going to keep hammering that.

Since April 1st, there have been 55K deaths attributed to COVID, which we know are over-estimated. VAERS deaths are 12K, which we know are under-estimated. Let's assume a factor of 3 for the VAERS deaths, so you get to 36K. But it is still not a valid comparison. Since only half the population has gotten a shot, but 100% of the population can be exposed to COVID, the relative risks need to be worked out. So 55K deaths out of a population of 100% from COVID, but 36K deaths out of a population of 50% from the vaccine.

So the vaccine has MORE risk than COVID. And this only includes the short term effects. (Yeah, I know not all the vaccines were administered after April 1, but my point remains: more risk from the shot than the virus)

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Lemonaid
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I'm speculating here but what do we know about youth and ADE.

Is a baseline robust immune response working to amp up neutralizing and non neutralizing antibodies such that when neutralizing antibodies wane the non neutralizing antibodies are wildly elevated compared to an older cohort?

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"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." Ludwig von Mises

Wakesetter
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Tokyo
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Tickerguy wrote:
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You were either the mutational factory or an intermediate host that screws the next person you share the love with!


A planetary RCT with a divide and conquer strategy rolled into one. Immunity for the makers and plausible deniability for the bureaucrats.

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"Parasites cant sustain prosperity." - Doug Casey
Standsfirm
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Not sure if this has been shared - discussion and some debate amongst a few heavy hitters in the fight against the vax. Search "The Awareness Foundation Covid 19 Roundtable". it's over 2 hours for those of you who like long form. first entry that comes up on duckduckgo.
Bluto
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7th circuit court of appeals just denied a temporary injuction that would prevent Indiana university from enforcing a vaccine requirement. It was 3-0 ruling from 2 Trump judges and a Reagan judge. They cited Jacobson v. Massachusetts. While the court hasn't yet ruled on the case, their denial of an injunction as well as the text of the denial just about guarantees that "mandate" will stand.

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Cwatson1982
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@Hanssachs

Check https://www.usmortality.com/excess

Pay special attention to the 25-44 age bracket. There are 30+% more deaths than expected so far this year.
Tickerguy
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Simple answer -- shove THIS in their face.

Do you want to face this person?

What if he/she means it?

 

Think long and hard.

You can't take your decision back.

Oh, and you HAD a pretty wife and kids.

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Mannfm11
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I bought some Quercetin/Bromalin today. I got my ammo stocked up and going to the horse store next. Texas has backed off the masks so far. They should require the up the ass instead of on the face anyhow, if they do, as I suspect they might work better and do less harm. People might ask questions then. 2 years of this millions will die from respiratory problems from breathing their own ****.

It is time for me to get off my ass and find some allies, for a show of force. In the meantime, it appears the politicians and health authorities are card carrying NAZI's. This is much deeper than jabs. It is genocidal control. You can fight back, if you are sick and might not even care to fight, if you are dying. I wish I had telepathy to a few million people. I have a long list of people and organizations that should be tried and hung.

Someone mentioned the courts. Dr. Peter McCollough said he had a hard time finding lawyers to do work for him. It might be time to disbar the entire group and start over, if there are no lawyers, with guts left. You are lucky, if the one you pay several hundred dollars an hour don't **** you worse than you are. The emergency rule should be rolled back and maybe some people will take this as a lesson it should never be allowed again. They have used war and emergency to destroy the Bill of Rights, since 1917.

There has to be a severe penalty for these liars. Hanging is too good for them A leper colony, on a far off rock, might be right on. Drop half the food they need and plenty of guns and bullets. Survival of the fittest. Adjust the food supply downward, with population. Make certain there are plenty of Karen's there as well. The choice between sex and peace will be a hard one.

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Ajkalian
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The one thing I've bitched about since this whole Covid-19 thing started. Without a reference to the infection rate as a percentage of the population you have no idea as to the severity of the infection.

Here's something I put together for the 50 states of the US, that lists every State, number of total infections and deaths with the percentage calculated by population for the infection rate, and total deaths.

And I would submit that the infection rates reported without some sort of reference to the Cycle Threshold would be much lower than reported.

The spreadsheet I put together differs slightly from those numbers because I didn't include information from provinces, only states. See attached

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