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Kareninca
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"Driving today, I see two idiots walking outside with masks on, another idiot drives by (only person in the car) with a mask on. No hope."

I put on sunblock to drive to the store; I don't want wrinkles. At the store I'm stuck putting on a mask. The mask wipes off the sunblock. So I drive home with the mask on; it is only two miles; I don't want to put on another load of sunblock. Same for going on walks; if I'm totally sick of slathering on sunblock a bandana/mask is now an option. Also from what I hear plenty of women (maybe men too) are getting cosmetic treatments these days since they can wear a mask afterwards for weeks as they heal up. Not every mask use is due to covid at this point although covid can be an excuse.
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Sampath11
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@Karl. What do you think of the Indian made vaccines - Covaxin and Covidshield ?

Covaxin seems to use a traditional technique of vaccines.

Covishied looks to be a AstraZeneca branded vaccine.

India is a powerhouse of vaccines, and so far has exported both these vaccines to 40+ countries.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021....

https://news.yahoo.com/covaxin-covishiel....

Norkar
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the postings on market-ticker assert that scientists and politicians are stupid.
certainly, there are, especially for politicians.

however, i posit that those in the highest levels of governance, with the most power, are EVIL (yes, i know that stupidity is intrinsic to being evil).

the elite in power:
1) engineered covid and its spread
2) propagandized the supposed danger of covid
3) implemented vaccines, masks, social distancing, quarantining, business shutdowns, etc
4) desire the bankruptcies, impoverishment, social fragmentation, strife, polarization, hunger, reduced medical services, premature deaths,
5) when step 4) finds its fulfillment in chaos, demoralization, violence
"they" will enact george bush's NWO, which might well include the goals of
the georgia guidestones
( https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/arti.... ). while principles 2 through 9 sound great, principle 1 requires
a 90% population reduction, no doubt achieved via vaccines and viruses.

as KD has predicted, medicare, medicaide, social security, national debt interest, will cause an economic implosion before 2025, the elite also anticipate such an implosion and therefore
6) engineer a world digital currency.

Chromehill
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@Mannfm11 - You nailed it. The lack of coverage regarding the spread of Covid via feces is quite clearly intentional when there are plenty of stories regarding testing waste water for Covid levels. None of the stories take the next step regarding the implications.

I told the receptionship at the auto repair shop about the testing of waste water for feces, she immediately got the connection.

This whole sham was put together by the Communist Chinese and their western Quislings.

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What had me worried about covid-19 early on (Feb of last year) was all of those awful videos coming out of Wuhan, many of them put out by Epoch Times. Those videos make one think we were headed for the John Ringo bird flu pandemic (along with the 60% mortality rate). By the time I caught it the firt time (early March) I was no longer worried about it. If it was the John Ringo Bird flu, I'd be dead and gone by now.

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Blue.ridge.steve
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@Captainkidd

Where'd ya stop for Mexican?
Captainkidd
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@Blue.ridge.steve

Went to Ojeda's in Plano.
Not as good as it used to be, but still better than anything I had in Florida the last 6 months.

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Uwe
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Kareninca wrote..
I put on sunblock to drive to the store

Unless you're driving a convertible with the top down, UV exposure inside a car is minimal. The laminated glass in your windshield blocks over 90% of it. The single layer of tempered glass in your side windows is a bit lower but still offers substantial protection.

An easy empirical test: Find someone who wears "PhotoGray" glasses; they respond to UV. Check out how little they darken in a car compared to outdoors on a sunny day.

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"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church pew, and even whether you are allowed to leave your house.
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Yep almost zero.

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Uwe
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Nadavegan wrote..
I heard rumor last night that licensing for the "vaccines" is slated for on or around May 1st. This means that employers and businesses can begin to deny access, since the shot is then deemed "safe".

Curious what people here are planning to do if and when that happens?

As an employer, I can assure you that I won't be denying access to my employees who choose not to get vaccinated. People who work for business that require it will have a choice to make. Hopefully enough of them will make the right choice to make things difficult for such businesses.

If a businesses decides that it will only admit customers who have proof of vaccination, I simply won't be spending my money there. I'm far more adamant about this when it comes to vaccines than masks. You can take a mask off the moment you leave the place, but you can't get un-vaccinated.

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"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church pew, and even whether you are allowed to leave your house.
Poorsaver
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I love the scientific minds in this forum. However, sometimes I feel cursed being a critical thinker.

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I will actively seek to destroy any firm and its owners, along with their families, that attempt to force vaccination.

My minimum goal is for each and every one of them, including children, to have as their most-precious possession a refrigerator box under a freeway overpass.

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Quote:
I will actively seek to destroy any firmand its owners, along with their families, that attempt to force vaccination.

Myminimumgoal is for each and every one of them, including children, to have as their most-precious possession a refrigerator box under a freeway overpass.


This!!
Whatever I can do to leave them bankrupt, homeless, hungry and destitute...
Whatever is within my power....
I will do it.

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It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford
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2% of people carry 90% of COVID-19 virus, and roommates are safer than you think
Mar 16, 2021

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-p....

Excerpts:

A few "super carriers" with off-the-charts viral loads are likely responsible for the bulk of COVID-19 transmissions, while about half of infected people aren't contagious at all at the time of diagnosis, suggests a new CU Boulder analysis of more than 72,000 test samples.

A second, related study lends further credence to the idea that viral load, or the amount of virus particles a person carries, drives contagion. It found that only one in five university students who tested positive while living in a residence hall infected their roommate. And their viral load was nearly seven times higher than those who didn't spread the virus.

"The takeaway from these studies is that most people with COVID don't get other people sick, but a few people get a lot of people sick," said Sara Sawyer, a professor of molecular, cellular and developmental biology and senior author of the first study. "If you don't have a viral super-carrier sitting near you at dinner, you might be OK. But if you do, you're out of luck. It's a game of roulette so you have to continue to be careful."

For the studiesamong the largest to date to examine trends in asymptomatic peopleresearchers analyzed saliva samples collected from students, and some faculty and staff, on the CU Boulder campus between Aug. 17 and Nov. 25.

Asymptomatic students in residence halls are required to test weekly, using a free, highly-sensitive saliva-based screening test called RT-qPCR (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction), which detects and quantifies genetic material from the virus that causes COVID-19.

In the fall, out of 72,500 samples taken from asymptomatic people, 1,405 cases of COVID-19 were identified.

"What is so special about these samples is that they are all from infected people with no symptomsa snapshot of all these seemingly healthy people you assume it is safe to be around," said Sawyer.

Sawyer and her team quantified just how many viral particles, or virions, each of those samples contained, plotted it and compared it to samples from hospitalized patients. A few surprising patterns emerged. First, the distribution of viral loads in the asymptomatic sample was indistinguishable from that of highly symptomatic patients.

"This means that symptoms tell you very little about what is going on inside a person's body," said Sawyer. "Some of these asymptomatic people are carrying a viral load as high as someone who is intubated with COVID in a hospital bed."

Just 2% of all the COVID-positive individuals at CU Boulder carried 90% of the circulating virus. One student with the highest load carried 5%.

Meanwhile, about half of those who tested positive had viral loads so low (below 106 virions per millilieter) that they were probably not carrying live virus anymoreinstead they may have just been shedding viral fragments from tissue under repair. Thus, they were probably not contagious.

"This provides another example of why you don't necessarily need super sensitive tests that may take longer to process," said coauthor Roy Parker, director of the BioFrontiers Institute and Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator. "Even a faster but less sensitive test will catch all the people who are contagious."

For a second study, researchers used the same samples to explore how often one roommate infected another.

In all, 1,058 students living in the dorms tested positive, constituting 16.5% of the population.

Students in single rooms were about half as likely to be infected. But this was not because the virus was spreading between roommates. (Previous research has shown that students who live alone tend to have fewer social contacts).

In fact, only 20% of infected studentsthose with significantly higher viral loadstransmitted the virus to their roommate.
Jesjohn94
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I would pretty much bet my life that forced vaccinations is where this is going. They will start with schools and colleges. Some businesses run by liberal do-gooders will no doubt try and force employees. It blows my mind how many people think an untested drug is safe just because it is called a vaccine. The various vaccines may or may not turn out to be safe. There is clearly zero reason any child should take these vaccines as they are not at risk in the first place.

What scares me is there is no journalism anymore and all our internet traffic goes through so few companies blocking opinions that aren't deemed proper is happening more and more. At least China is honest about what they do.
Tickerguy
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It's gonna blow up in their faces first.

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Kareninca
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I live in CA so I have the car window down most of the time. No UVA/UVB protection then.

I have a relative in Indiana who just got vaccinated. Boy was my relative annoyed when her doctor told her that she (the doctor) only expected the vaccine to protect her for about three months. That is the second time I've heard that - a nurse I know here in CA who felt forced to be vaccinated due to her job, told me that she expected the protection to last for about three months. I wonder what study or article they are basing this time frame on.
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No T-cell reaction from the vaccines

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Kareninca
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It may be that the nurse I talked with and my relative's doctor were thinking of this study, which is about neutralizing antibodies. Such a drop 119 days after the first dose is pathetic:

"While only a preliminary analysis, a new study by the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) suggests that the long-term efficacy of Modernas mRNA-1273 vaccine, specifically the neutralizing antibody count, may be less than we were hoping for.

Neutralizing antibodies bind to invading pathogens, like all antibodies do, but they bind in a manner that stops infection. That is why pharmaceutical companies stress neutralizing antibody counts as an essential measure for their vaccines success.

The NEJM study followed a group of 34 patients who had taken both doses of mRNA-1273 and analyzed their antibody counts from the administration of the first dose for 119 days.
Neutralizing antibodies were monitored in subgroups of 18-55 years of age, 56-70, and 71+, as shown below.

A significant determinant of vaccines effectiveness in controlling a pandemic is antibody durationhow long the antibodies last in a persons system. For those 18-55 years old, the majority only show a slight decrease in neutralizing antibodies in the three months following their second vaccine dose. Two of the 34 patients in this age group saw a significant drop in neutralizing antibodies.

However, sustained antibody counts are not the case in the 56-70 and 71+ age groups. In these subsets, the neutralizing antibody counts fall anywhere between 50 and 75 percent. This suggests that in these age groups, the duration of neutralizing antibodies from the Moderna vaccine will be relatively short, potentially less than a year. That is particularly troubling as these are the age groups most affected by severe Covid-19. It may well be that the levels of antibodies after three months, if maintained, are sufficient to protect these age groups, but it is unlikely they will continue to protect if levels fall still further.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhase....

It occurs to me that this might mean that young people who take this shot would be at much more risk of ADE than older people, if ADE ends up being a problem.
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'A lab leak isn't 100% certain but it seems to be the only logical source of Covid': Washington expert who led inquiry into the cause of the virus reveals three Wuhan lab scientists fell ill in November 2019

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article....
Capcomp
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Karl - Thank you for once again pointing out the insanity behind the Coivd Scamdemic.

Question: If the expected protection of the "vaccine" is only 3 months does the potential ADE issue also fade as quickly?
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It's gonna blow up in their faces first.

God willing, yes, and the bigger the better. The only way out is down.
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Karl, are you following the AstraZeneca debacle? "The Party" is deliberately spreading BS daily, throwing that vaccine under the bus. You'd swear Donald Trump owned that vaccine. I'm pretty sure it's because it only costs a fraction of the other ones, $2 vs. $26 per dose.


I suspect that AstraZeneca is being used as the "Bear Sterns" in order to deflect attention from the other vaccines, particularly the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. Bear Sterns was deliberately allowed to sink in spring of '08 in a desperate attempt to deflect attention from the other investment banking firms, which later sink in fall of '08.

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Tickerguy
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@Capcomp - Maybe.

One problem is that some of the early study work I saw showed WILDLY elevated antibody titers compared to natural infection. Like 10x and more.

That's ****ing stupid but it's what they apparently did.

With natural infection you ALSO get T-cell recognition. I have NO IDEA if you do with these vaccines. As far as I know they never tested for it, and that's ****ing stupid too, because even without an antibody titer if you DO have T-cell recognition the odds of a severe infection are very, very low.

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