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 The West's Obituary
Vernonb 3k posts, incept 2009-06-03
2021-02-14 12:02:14

Truly diabolical. The Chinese got the western nations, Israel, and other portions of the world to tag themselves with the mRNA virus to make their plan of world domination a reality. Something they could not do directly by themselves.

Now my next question is how many Chinese researchers were involved in that "warp speed" mRNA vaccine roll out from these pharmaceutical companies?

Anyone want to make a bet the CCCP was not involved in making the MRNA vaccine through its agents? It's like they already knew what they wanted to push.

Having been in pharma I've seen many drug candidates crash before a promising one could be developed. It might take years to find the right candidate. Seems like the dominos were already aligned.

I realize there is a difference between drug and viral candidates but still all seems a bit too coincidental.

"Mass intelligence does not mean intelligent masses."
Woodout 2 posts, incept 2021-02-14
2021-02-14 12:02:17

From the beginning, something never smelled right with this vaccine push. Since many years ago I took my college professors advice about TV ("Pull its umbilical cord from the wall and drag it to the curb). I'm not sure what I missed, but I think it was the demoralization program described by Yuri Bezmenov in a 1984 interview that's been raining on the US since at least the 1950's.
Quik49 16k posts, incept 2007-12-11
2021-02-14 12:02:25

What I'm hearing locally from peeps jabbed is how they're looking forward to waltzing around with now worries about the rona....uh huh. Can it be that after second jab you get a third which is the real rona and be fucked like peeps getting the jab that recently had the rona?

2 + 2 =5
Burya_rubenstein 2k posts, incept 2007-08-08
2021-02-14 12:32:24

It's not just the politicians at this point. From what I observe from every other source of Contact, the people who are marked for death by the Vaccine are very likely going to have to be killed anyway, with bullets instead of Germs, if we're going to be rid of the Covid mania. So it's possible that launching this attack could be doing the rest of us a favor. We just have to somehow get the "right bodies" into the right, uhh, defensive positions.

I'd just like to add that China and the Left should be thankful that I wasn't the president who was getting Boehned out of an election by obvious cheating.
Reformedhippy 4k posts, incept 2020-07-01
2021-02-14 12:47:20

@Invisiblesun, I mentioned this a few months ago, that the virus seemed to only be hitting the Latin countries particularly hard and leaving the others like the Asian and African countries largely alone.

Also regarding a mystery DNA tag, locally we have very few deaths, but one community's total death rate is four siblings in their 60s.

Falls in line with my theory that we are the intended target. First wave, the virus, second wave, the vaccine, third wave, the next wave of virus, wash, rinse, repeat.
Drifter 2k posts, incept 2016-02-11
2021-02-14 13:09:03

Just got off the phone with a patient that is on Pfizer's payroll. Nobody on his team (don't know how many) are getting vaccinated. Safety worries, not effective on all strains, and that it might cause a hypersensitivity reaction if exposed to other strains. His last, personal reason: I don't want artificial dna making proteins in my body.

He says they all concur that they are putting safety to the back of the bus.

I know for y'all this is anecdotal, but for me this is from the burning bush. Right now he's thinking the J and J vaccine might be the way forward, but that might change in several weeks time.
Nickdanger 2k posts, incept 2011-06-12
2021-02-14 13:09:37

The side effects (including death) have been worrisome to me since before the jab was released. There is just no way they can be sure that it is safe, and it's not the typical vaccine as Karl mentioned. I've been particularly worried about the effects that don't show up immediately, such as ADE and autoimmunity issues. The video below is a good one from Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, who has years of medical experience, and has extensively studied the effects of vaccination.

I'm really worried that within a year or so I will lose all my friends and 3 brothers to the jab. They have all been so excited to get it, although I have sent them videos and articles, and encouraged them to "do your research" before jumping in. They all think I wear my tin foil hat too tightly.

My additional fear is that the long term effects will happen long enough out from the jab that it won't be recognized as caused by the shot. Another way to deflect the blame from the pharmaceutical companies/doctors.

-- I'm in the control group

-- In life, it's important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong.

Reason: Additional thought about long term effects
Tsherry 14k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2021-02-14 13:49:38

Nickdanger--mentally prepare yourself for that to happen; if it does you're ready. If not, consider that a good thing.

I'm pretty much in the same boat with my blood relatives and many friends.

I've always sort of wondered what it must've been like to been a Native American in the 14-1500's, in a sort-of stable civilization, and then to watch a completely unknown disease tear through your world and kill everyone you know.

I live in an area that was relatively heavily populated by a tribal culture. One of our projects required a cultural resources inventory. We toured the project--a 26 mile-long trail that would be built within a few hundred feet of the Spokane River--with our consulting archaeologist. He stated rather definitively that 600,000 Spokane Indians lived within a mile of the river over their history, and that they, and all their stuff, was still in that area. Those that died 'naturally' pre-pandemic were generally buried within easily identified areas (even now) and we left them alone when the project was constructed. Those that died in the pandemic of introduced European disease were buried haphazardly and on occasion were found during construction, requiring local tribal involvement, but generally they were left in place and the trail built above the remains.

The impacts of the disease(s) were culturally devastating--they lost abilities that were common to their culture, likely due to the death of skilled elders who were unable to pass on their skills to a younger generation...who had also died. The survivors had to band together in unfamiliar units with different skills, cultural norms, and territories to survive. They obviously never recovered. 150 years later, white people started to show up in the initial wave of settling, and the tribes fought back and were decimated again.

China won't wait that long.

Father forgive me for the times I craved a place at a table that you would have flipped.
Flappingeagle 5k posts, incept 2011-04-14
2021-02-14 13:51:56

Here is what I was trying to warn about in my early post with the YouTube link.

That however, is not what I am envisioning. How long until the Chinese do test-tube embryos and are able to detect which of the embryos have the best characteristics and then those are the ones that get implanted? Think of it, you get eggs and sperm from 160+ IQ people with good physical characteristics, then you pay the poor to carry those eggs to term. Maybe you even tell the poor you can have two or three kids if you let us pick the kids.

All it would take is one generation with a big surplus of 160+ IQ people for China to have the brainpower to easily dominate the world.


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Purplefang 717 posts, incept 2010-03-28
2021-02-14 13:52:06


I agree with Merck. There no way forward with the vaccines.

Ivermectin, HCQ.
Tsherry 14k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2021-02-14 14:01:09

Flap--What makes you think that they haven't already done this en-masse, and those children are now teenagers?

Who ever the birth mother is, it's also crucial that exceptionally good nutrition must be provided for a good outcome.

Seems like I've read a Heinlein story or five about the impacts of selective breeding on longevity, intelligence and innovation...

Someone's using it like a textbook.

Father forgive me for the times I craved a place at a table that you would have flipped.
Technica 71 posts, incept 2020-04-10
2021-02-14 14:14:20

Excellent thread and topic, TG.

Several pertinent videos here (sometimes may take a few seconds to start playing):

First one Robert Kennedy Jr discussion pathogenic priming (ADE). Del Bigtree sums it up at the end what might happen if everyhone gets the vaccine, along the lines of this thread topic. For people unfamiliar with this topic I show them this and it's short (4:36) and to the point with a name a lot of people recognize.

The 2nd one is Dr David Martin, Judy Mikovits, RFK Jr and Rocco Galati (famous Canadian lawyer suing PM of Canada, Premier of Ontario and mayor of Toronto over the virus BS) discussing how this is NOT a vaccine. Again, a short video 6:16.

Last one is from one of the guys I follow and he's here in Oklahoma. He gives his virus/mask experiences going from Oklahoma to California to visit family. I thought this might be of interest to my fellow Oklahomans on here.

Concern 1 posts, incept 2021-02-14
2021-02-14 17:18:55

Can someone please comment on the Astra-Zeneca Oxford vaccine? My understanding is that this is the only one of the big three that does not use mRNA.
Zappafan 6k posts, incept 2007-11-30
2021-02-14 17:19:01

I said it before Trump took office and I'll say it again, technically we need China more than they need us!

That's damn straight and needs to be repeated. And internalized if we want to "war game" out the probabilities of what China might be able to do with such a bio-weapon as Karl describes.

China has in most of its recent history been more concerned with keeping out western influences and securing natural resources, rather than projecting raw imperial power across the globe. Their naval capability remains quite weak compared with ours. Memories of the British empire and what they did drive a lot of their thinking - they want buffers between themselves and the west.

More recently though China has done a lot of business in Latin America which is traditionally "our sphere of influence" at least since the Monroe doctrine. China might be trying to encircle us, with Latin America to the south and possibly a dying Europe to our east.

If China develops a targeted bio-weapon using the mRNA vaccinated to hit our population, they might be able to skip the military conflict and simply announce they have this weapon, along with a short demonstration. Say, a few thousand Uighur immigrants conveniently vaccinated with Pfizer and then sent to a remote offshore island, where the weaponized virus is then piped in through the air conditioning or something like that. The President of the US or the Joint Chiefs of Staff get to watch of private video of them dying slowly over the next few weeks. Popcorn optional.

An ultimatum is then presented - either withdraw the entire US naval fleet from the Pacific back to Hawaii or US territorial waters further east, along with abandoning any bases in South Korea, the Philippines, and Japan. Or else ... the sleeper cells inside the US, Canada, Japan and any pesky European countries that might object start releasing the bio-weapon.

I'm sure the Chinese are capable of making such a move, the question is, will they?

Without a single shot fired, game over.

I have a bit of an active imagination, so your welcome to poke holes in this.
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-02-14 17:19:35

@Concern - The issue is not the tech per-se, at least not from THIS perspective (it is from other perspectives though.)

It's whether the antibody titer is bio-identical to infection. If it's not then it's dangerous.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Tonythetiger 970 posts, incept 2019-01-27
2021-02-14 18:19:46

Flappingeagle wrote:

All it would take is one generation with a big surplus of 160+ IQ people for China to have the brainpower to easily dominate the world.

It's worse than that. China has 3x the population of the US. Assuming the same natural distribution of IQ in both populations, there are three 160+ IQ Chinese for every 160+ IQ American.

Three Chinese geniuses can work around the clock, forever, in shifts without difficulty where one US genius couldn't possibly keep up for more than a day at the same pace.

All the Chinese have to do is identify the geniuses, train them, and provide them the tools to produce things. The best the US can hope for is to slow the rate at which we fall behind. Combining with European Union adds another 450 million, but that's still only two thirds of the Chinese population.

For the past several decades China has not had the industrial base that the US has, so our productivity was able to keep us out front. Now, the Chinese are industrializing and vying competitively. Soon they will leave us behind.

On top of that, the Chinese don't have cripplingly expensive social programs that consume the capital needed to improve productivity like the US does.

(/sarc on) Naturally our political leaders see the problem and are leaving no stone unturned to right the ship. (/sarc off)

"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-02-14 18:20:20


I noted this problem a good while ago in a column on us being fucked for other reasons

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."

Ebt 368 posts, incept 2018-12-22
2021-02-14 18:38:22

Regarding the J&J vaccine, Sen Rob Portman was a volunteer in that trial. So maybe if you have get the vaccination or face execution, the J&J is the best bet.

For me, I have my D3, C, zinc, and quercetin as a daily prophylaxis. I also have Ivermectin already here in case I test positive or think I may well have it.

I'm pretty much in the ADE for depopulation camp. There's going to be 3 groups of people:

1. the vaccinated
2. the elites who get vaccinated w/ extra protection from the ADE to be released
3. The unvaccinated who have to take their chances

For me, #2 isn't an option so its going to have to be #3.
Lemonaid 18k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2021-02-14 18:49:12

The Sinopharm is better than the J&J. The Sinopharm appears to be a more traditional vaccine by weakening the existing covid virus.

The J&J has issues with a similar rabies application for animals.

Karl, have you looked at all the various covid vaccines and which would you choose to play Russian Roulette with if you had to?

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of

Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-02-14 18:50:05

None and I will cook the children of anyone who tries to force or coerce me to take ANY of them.

There are NONE that meet my risk:reward profile.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."

Snowmizuh 2k posts, incept 2009-03-18
2021-02-14 19:10:33

I have a friend in Beijing; I asked recently what is going on with vaccines in China. He said no one is taking them even though the government is encouraging folks to do so. No one trusts them.

Lemonaid 18k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2021-02-14 19:17:56

That wasn't grammatically clear.

Did you say the chinese government is instructing people not to?

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of
Keenan 534 posts, incept 2013-01-11
2021-02-14 19:35:23

Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is DNA based, using an adenovirus vector. See here for the details:
Idiom 342 posts, incept 2015-02-20
2021-02-14 20:50:04

One thing New Zealand has that I am surprised the US hasn't added yet is the right to refuse any medical procedure or medication.

Add to it ban on the government restricting access to any medication and you would have a hell of an amendment.
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-02-14 20:50:56

No shit @Idiom? Including vaccines?


"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
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