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2019-08-09 13:58 by Karl Denninger
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Tesla: Reliability SUCKS
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Damn this is brutal....

There's only one make of vehicle reviewed -- out of 28 -- that's worse than Tesla.

Cadillac.

It has a predicted reliability score, on average, of 22.  Median is 52 and best is 79.

Musk has been smoking too many bong hits, it appears.

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Krzelune
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But none of the other car maker factories are in a tent
Poorsaver
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Amusing, Jay Leno was on CNBC a few days ago praising Tesla, and how his requires no maintenance at all. Just hop in and enjoy. His must be an outlier.
Personally I think the cars are hideous, with the exception of the sports coupe which is outrageously priced. Reliability is a moot point to me.

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You see, if you account for repairs as capex, the replacement parts come onto the automotive asset at cost, plus labor. This way, the automobile maintains its value longer than other cars. I dont see whats so hard to understand about that.

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There you guys go looking at numbers again. Do you want to be morally right or technically right....

Feelings...man....Feelings.


Not sure this board is saveable with all these people who want to keep posting facts.
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I have no doubts that Tesla has problems and I personally am not signing up for a vehicle that may or may not arrive as promised. That said I also by no means think Consumer Reports is unbiased, nor are their "members" whom which they polled. I take any reliability surveys with a huge grain of salt. At the end of the day, at least with internal combustion vehicles, take care of it and it'll last.

My hunch is people dropping 100 large for a vehicle and then waiting month after month for delivery is dragging down their #'s. Piece of trim is a bit loose on our $25k Camry you push it back in place and forget about it. Same thing happens on your Tesla Model X, you don't forget when CR comes calling.
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KD-

Guess who also doesn't take part in JD Power Rankings? Yup, you guessed it...$TSLAQ

They would get HAMMERED, and thus decline to partake.

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Interesting how most of the american based firms are in the lower half. 2004 4runner with almost 200k. No reason it wont go 150 more.
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@Maynard, I have a 2000 Toyota Sienna. Still runs like a clock.
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Maynard wrote-
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2004 4runner with almost 200k. No reason it wont go 150 more.


Amateur. 99 Landcruiser, 290k...4.7 V8 heavily modified. I'm counting on 500k, will likely need a steering rack in the next 50K but otherwise unstoppable. Ask Delphis.

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Poor, if you look at Leno's stable of cars, I suspect Jay is in another universe. He probably doesn't drive the Tesla long enough to have problems. Electric motors are pretty reliable. Putting it all in a package is much more complex. Tesla is under pressure to prove they can mass produce. Would you want to buy in that situation? The line has to move. Their competitors have made all the mistakes. I'm sure none of them sent Tesla the list of assembly do's and don'ts.

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I was right behind a Tesla today. Still having to fight off the urge to ram into it.

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Imagine if the American auto industry hadn't told Demming to **** off.
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the American auto industry would not have told Demming to **** off if we had told them to **** off. if we allowed Chrysler to fail many decades ago as it should have, a shock wave would have gone through the industry. no, it was not the gas crisis or economic issues that gave the Japanese an edge. companies with the internals geared to rigorous quality have a culture that can rise to almost any occasion. additionally unions are the other half of the evil twins separating quality productivity from compensation. had they not been given the chance to continue business as usual, some would have embraced Demming's ideas and thrived.

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@Whitehat -- Yep.

There have been so many exposes in the media in SE Michigan on the "union work issues" that I literally lost count.

The typical one is this -- camera crew from the news folks in an undercover van with blacked-out windows (so the dudes from the plant can't see the cameras) come out for "lunch", pile into a truck, go through a drive-through beer place where the three of them grab a 6 or 12 pack. Proceed to nearby park, consume said beer and smoke a couple of doobies.

Then, having had their "lunch", they return to the plant and go through the manned checkpoint to clock back in.

Now anyone who thinks they're not waved back in INTENTIONALLY despite being obviously intoxicated and smelling like a brewery (never mind the weed) has rocks in their head.

This might have something to do with the extra wrench you find when you run down the odd rattle in the door of your car which has no apparent cause. Or the transmission valve body that is undertorqued and magically fails. Or... any one of a number of other things, like, for instance, the millions of 5.3L V8s that were assembled with the wrong-sized piston-bore match (in other words, the measurement was either not taken on the bore or the wrong piston grabbed from the wrong bin) resulting in piston skirt slap, extreme wear and, often in 30,000 miles or less, the engine self-destructs.

Yah.

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Karl, Brian Bosworth, the university footballer, back in the 1980's mentioned in a magazine article how he used to drop a few loose nuts inside the bodies of the American cars he assembled whilst he worked as a factory worker, just to **** with the future owners. Ain't Amerika grand for letting *******s of mediocre character or less, succeed!?!?
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If you have a Tesla, one thing you won't need is a box of self strike matches.
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@Wi-Fi: That doesn't really follow.

After all, Teslas are so unreliable that you can't count on exactly when they will self-immolate. Thus, if you don't have matches, you may not be able to have a fire when you really need it.

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Thus, if you don't have matches, you may not be able to have a fire when you really need it.


And, you could very well have a fire when you really, REALLY, REALLY don't need it.

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There a recnt vid.. tried to post but no dice....of one on autopilot in Russia bursting into flames when it his another car....
Lovely vehicle there..

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