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2019-06-10 10:06 by Karl Denninger
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Commiefornia Can Fornicate Itself
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The newest bit of stupidity is that Commifornia is going to provide full health coverage to illegal invaders.

They're going to do it by..... taxing those without health insurance.

In other words they're going to try to do what Obama did (e.g. "individual mandate") but virtually all of any such tax will fall on those who have no employer-provided "insurance benefits" -- that means self-employed and poor people.

There will shortly be none of the former in the state, and there are already plenty of the latter, many literally living on the streets.

Of course Commiformia thinks they can somehow make the math work on this.  They can't.  It's not possible.  Exactly how they think they can manage to have the highest taxes in all of the nation and keep those who pay taxes is beyond me.

But... let 'em try.

One thing though -- no subsidies from the rest of us for this stupidity.  And yeah, I mean it.  We the people of the rest of the nation need to make clear to the Federal Government that while the 50 state political experiment is indeed the design of our nation laying the cost off on others will not be tolerated and we will stop it by any means necessary if it is tried.

You can bet it will be tried too; that old prune Pelosuckme needs to hear loudly and clearly that it ain't gonna happen and whatever form refusal must take, it will take.  Peaceful and lawful are my preferred paths, but irrespective of the necessary method of enforcement the answer is NO.

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Emg
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I'm guessing this is going to be part of their 2020 national campaign, to encourage more illegals to vote for them.
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Anyone that abides and voluntarily pays the extortion tax is a fool. I saw a picture this weekend of people in an outside caf in San Fran watching a homeless guy crap on the sidewalk right in front of them. The insanity has hit a peak and these idiots still don't see it.
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I was reading that "Article"..
Interesting figures in it..

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State officials have estimated the benefits would be available to about 90,000 low-income illegal immigrants at a cost of $98 million per year.


I believe Commiforina is about to get a VERY rude awakening..
(I'm taking the over on this)..
Numbers I'm guessing at is more likely into or around 1,090,000.. +++++
Lordy I'll go even higher..
1/4th of the population.
What ya'll think?

Promptly bankrupting the State..

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I just crossed the border from oregon to CA. Gas prices went up around 80 cents a gallon. The difference must be taxes. Then I stopped in a state park and saw they wanted $35 a night for camping. No utilities, just a dirt strip.

Those people are really getting screwed every which way. Any of them with a single-digit IQ must be asking themselves what they get in return.

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This is simply one more of many enticements that Calif politicians have created in order to attract more and more illegals.

Many have been calling this type of Calif behavior "insanity", but it's much worse than that. Insanity can sort-of be excused, as the afflicted person is generally not able to control their thoughts/actions. This is nothing more than ultra-liberal/progressive virtue-signaling (with OPM, of course), i.e., willful idiocy and IMO criminality.

A meteor strike on DC is not good enough. In order to have any hope of saving the country, we also need a huge tidal wave that wipes out the mainly coastal lib/prog strongholds of Calif, as well.

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Paging Joe Wilson. Please come to the white courtesy phone. Paging Joe Wilson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw....
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Just trying to enforce this tyrannical stupidity will be a nightmare. So you arrest these poor people. They have no money. Now you throw them in prison because they don't have the money for this extortion. That's going to be one expensive cost for prison. Hell some of the homeless might think the place is paradise in contrast to their present lives.


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was on a con call w a colleague who said his electric rates are over 20c kwh and his bill is $100/month, and he has solar panels. Bend over, those illegals are gonna be another lubeless rump wrangling.

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I live in CA, am self-employed, and I can tell you right now that I am not and will not be paying for health "insurance". They can try to fine me, but F them if they think I'll let them collect.
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And how will they determine who is legible for these benefits? It's not like illegals have any form of identity. What's to stop people coming in from neighboring states or flying in to claim they are an illegal for the free health care?
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Absolutely Emg, that's immediately what I thought when seeing this. The Democrats would not be doing this if illegals couldn't vote.

Look up Medicaid housing, these illegals are getting more than just free care.

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Vernonb:
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Now you throw them in prison because they don't have the money for this extortion. That's going to be one expensive cost for prison. Hell some of the homeless might think the place is paradise in contrast to their present lives.


Well at least they'll, (the non-tax paying poor & homeless WHITE people), have 3 hots & a cot, AND "free" Medical care while in State Custody, until, "They" decide that Gas Chambers are more cost effective..

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@Gaunlet33, think twice and make good plan before deciding you want to fight the California Franchise Tax Board. 'em *******s are worse than Nazi, when they decide you owe tax. If you have any bank account or any asset that can trail back to you ssn it will be frozen, emptied, or just taken away until they decide that your "obligations" to them is satisfied. So when your bank send you a letter that ALL of your money is no longer in your account, for the .gov have taken it ALL to satisfy your debt. Don't ask me how I know!

You better have plan on how you are going to pay your bills, and how are you going to fight them. Getting the **** out of the state may be the only good strategy; I'm leaving, and my schedule have just moved.


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cali passes this law and 3000 a month will cross the border.
It will open the floodgates. I can not comprehend why they would want to do this to themselves unless cali is already illegal immigrant controlled.

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Well, maybe we can hope that so many illegals will migrate to CA that it will crack off and fall into the ocean. Remember Rep Hank Johnson of GA, and his comment about Guam...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXq....

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Tat668: Thanks for the advice...having my banks accounts frozen is a scary proposition. Also, for better or worse, I'm stuck here and this tree would not do well if uprooted as my business is already based here.
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I don't know how the proposed law is worded, but can anyone get free healthcare in CA by claiming to be an illegal?
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cali passes this law and 3000 a DAY will cross the border.

FIFY smiley

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Not to beat a (not quite) dead horse but keep in mind that the obamacare individual ****-you, err...mandate is still on the books, they just reduced the fine to zero. It won't take a lot of effort crank that bitch back up to the old level. If anything, they'll probably triple or quadruple the fine from it's original levels.

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Attilahooper wrote..
was on a con call w a colleague who said his electric rates are over 20c kwh and his bill is $100/month, and he has solar panels.


I had solar panels on my previous house. My biggest electric bill in the hottest months of summer was only $35. Many a bill was in the $10-15 range.

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Every day is a new day in the twilight zone. Look at the homeless, the filth everywhere and now they want to allocate free funds for illegals health care? I think this country is having a mental illness crisis. No leader in their right mind would advocate this and no taxpayer in their right mind would support it. Crackpots everywhere......
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cali passes this law and 3000 a month will cross the border.


Hell of a lot more than that cross every day now. Isn't it somewhere around 250k/mth now?

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As a person with business interests and homes in OR and NV, I welcome this.

Should drive more conservatives into blue-formerly-purple NV, and more illegals from OR and NV into CA.

Make Nevada Purple Again. Possibly even Oregon.

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And how will they determine who is legible for these benefits? It's not like illegals have any form of identity. What's to stop people coming in from neighboring states or flying in to claim they are an illegal for the free health care?


Racial profiling. It's ok when used to promote the "right" causes.
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Hopefully from Arizona....
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