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2018-08-10 08:20 by Karl Denninger
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So now having used it for a few days -- the latest Android version -- I have some observations.

First, Google has done a fair bit of work on how they schedule tasks in the kernel, it appears, keeping most of the background work on the lower-CPU power (and power consumption) cores on modern devices -- most of which have multiple instances of same.  This is more a kernel thing, but it appears to have a pretty material and positive impact.

The "swipe up" capability to get to the "task manager "is an interesting change.

The other big difference is in notification management; the system pays attention to what you do with notifications and if you basically never do anything other than dismiss them it will eventually ask you if you want to shut them up.

Oreo reorganized notifications on a grand scale, requiring "channels" to be registered by applications.  This has problems (as I previously noted) but it also came with benefits, in that you can force off notifications that an application would otherwise try to spam you with.  "P" has made some relatively minor (but, so far, good) changes to this in that it now tries to figure out what you're doing with those notifications, and if it thinks you don't really want them it will "suggest" you shut them off.

There is one EXTREMELY annoying change however -- Google moved the clock over to the left side of the top bar from the right and locked it on.  For those of us who always have a clock on our screen because we want a widget with more information (e.g. dual time zones, when the next alarm is, etc) this is an insanely annoying and duplicative waste of space.  To not make this selectable as is the battery remaining percentage is ridiculous -- typical Goolag horsecrap.

My HomeDaemon android app has required no changes to function properly, which is nice, and the system leaves it alone even though I have it running on a continual basis in the background.  That's good.

In general this appears to be a mostly-incremental change, although I've yet to see anything terrible.  The most-important is the apparent improvement in power consumption -- a change you can't really put your finger on in a concrete fashion, but which is quite important in terms of real-world performance.

All in all I like it but I wouldn't call it revolutionary.  If your device doesn't get updated to it, and remains on Oreo, the differences you will notice will be modest in impact rather than something likely to make you want to run out and buy a new device tomorrow.

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How did you get Pie? I've got a V20/T-mobile and am still on Nougat. Did T-mobile push it to you or did you manually install?
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I have an Essential.... They got it on release day. Bought it on prime day for $250 for Oreo so I could check the HomeDaemon app for issues. Glad I did as I had to make oreo - specific code changes.

It's not a big boost over what you will have with Oreo, which is going to hit T- Mobile V20s within a few weeks.

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OK thanks. One of my employees has an Pie on his Pixel. Was just playing with it. Mostly, just looks like they are doing the iPhone X thing with the swipe up from the bottom for app switching, etc.
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I doubt the V20 will ever get Pie.

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I do too, but it's not material in terms of operational impact. Oreo is, for all intents and purposes from an operational standpoint, Pie.

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