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Tickerguy 193k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2014-05-19 13:58:15


The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2014-05-19 15:19:24

I have been doing that math for a long time Karl. You are one of the few people out there that raises the issue. Where does the money from education go? In fact, where did the education go?

As for the cited statistics, they have been going on for a long time. Prior to Chicago being murder city, it was Detroit and DC. I guess DC got so full of stolen money they no longer have to shoot each other in such numbers.

I read the mortality statistics of the US back about 20 years ago in response to so much emphasis being put on murder then. I knew, from what I had read that the murder rate in the US had declined significantly between 1970 and the early 1990's. I ran the entire tables in a search to see how many men and women were living at various ages compared to how many were born. The black mortality statistics were separate and between accidents and murder, black males were eliminated in sizable numbers between birth and 25 years old. White people have a higher propensity to kill themselves.

What this guy doesn't want out is the government is creating most of this mess. You can't continue to levy the economy with massive welfare state/racketeering/organized crime fees and expect people to get a job. There was a report recently on the cost of regulation and it has gone through the room under the current Fascist administration. Clearly the establishment Republicans, which this guy is likely a member, have no interest in fixing this problem. When society becomes a group of motherfucking thieves, organized from the top down, it shouldn't be a surprise society itself becomes largely criminal.

The real question here is, why the attack on you? Is it one more attempt to brand a potential political fly in the ointment opponent of the establishment a racist? isn't that the norm of the day? Don't they brand the tea party people racists? Isn't the real deal the maintenance of the status quo of a few organized government linked criminals looting the rest of us? This guy might bear investigation.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Rock 153 posts, incept 2013-04-17
2014-05-19 15:19:41


Thank you for all you do.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2014-05-19 15:19:49

Lets talk about documented.

Look at page 11. White mortality from assault, .4% of deaths. Black, 2.7%.

Over twice as many whites kill themselves, 1.7% to .7%, which might mean white people have a tendency to take their violence out on themselves rather than others. I guess you can't make the point blacks are stupid, because it appears they can identify the enemy better than whites.

The point is this stuff has been documented for a long time. Is this guy just running off at the keyboard?

These are official government statistics. I am sure you can go in the wayback machine should you choose to find it in these pages.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Crzymorse 1k posts, incept 2010-06-25
2014-05-19 15:20:01

KD- is Medicare spending included in your cost estimate or just Medicaid for bottom 20% you mentioned. I would think there would be significant social security disability costs within that population cohort but don't know the number off hand.

I suspect a great portion of that 46K per bottom quintile is supporting a 1er% somewhere else in a way the free market never would.
Nma 309 posts, incept 2010-03-16
2014-05-19 15:20:07

ROFL...he told me I should follow Alex Jones, twice.

Aaaaand we're done.
Irishblues 722 posts, incept 2010-12-18
2014-05-19 15:20:15

Genesis wrote..
If one is a civil right why isn't the other, provided nobody beyond consenting adults is forced to participate?

I'm curious to see if the schmuck goes off the deep end to "what about a guy who wants to marry a 7-year old?" and "what about a guy who wants to marry his TV?" and "what about the woman who's forced to _____" - all of which ignore the two critical words in the quote above: consenting adults.
Alaskanleif 42 posts, incept 2013-06-29
2014-05-19 15:20:26

...and it will also stop a lot of the JAILING, which in turn destroys economic opportunity with permanent prison records.

This is huge and much more so that most realize, irrespective of ethnicity.

My oldest son(32 now), trying to do the right thing, was convicted of felony DUI for sleeping in the back of a non-running car. After serving his 90 day jail sentence, he has not been able to work above day labor, minimum wage despite having some, in theory, marketable skills.
Atmartin 230 posts, incept 2011-12-24
2014-05-19 15:20:32

All that was missing in Mr. Helinski's article was an exhortation to more midnight basketball leagues.
Ugrev 1k posts, incept 2010-03-08
2014-05-19 15:35:37

@Nma: I said pretty much the same thing. "You should try following Alex Jones some more".. yeah.. like I need an extra asshole.

Irregular Warfare is now in play
Godzillaman 174 posts, incept 2010-06-10
2014-05-19 15:51:34

1. If the facts are against you, argue the law.
2. If the law is against you, argue the facts.
3. If the facts and the law are against you, yell like hell which is like arguing with an idiot. All they do knock you down to their level then beat you with experience.

Paul Helinski never heard of him until today.

What do I think after spending over an hour on the site.(I know way too long)

Neo-con,R.I.N.O. and a Alex Jones wanna-be.(Scary,creepy.)

What really turns me off is peddling of wares.(Last place I would buy A gun.)

The site is nothing more than a toothpaste commercial.

Eisenhower warned us about this.

Never I mean NEVER have I gone on the Ticker felt that way and is the reason why the Ticker is and always will be MY HOME PAGE until I die unless I can get internet access in hell.

I already spent to much time on this Jerk.

Hey Paulie I think you have some Cheetos in that birds nest hang off your chin.

Load up on some more carbs will ya.

Here's my apology, Fuck You!

Ckaminski 6k posts, incept 2011-04-08
2014-05-19 23:08:53

was convicted of felony DUI for sleeping in the back of a non-running car.

You penalize a guy doing the right thing, but let a convicted multi-offender get a hardship exclusion to let them keep driving to work. WTF.

This is the biggest reason I really don't drink out side of my own home anymore. It's not worth risking an encounter with the gestapo.
Duc888 8k posts, incept 2008-11-06
2014-05-19 23:09:08

One of your better tickers in the last two years Karl.

This hit home for me. "At the same time we imprison huge numbers of black people, destroying their civil rights and job prospects with a permanent felony record when their "offense" is nothing more than consensual adult conduct!"

Having my shop located where it was prior to where it is now I saw this first hand. I've personally known quite a few non whites in da hood who fucked up when they were young. And YES they have in fact paid their debt to society...there should be a mechanism to have ones record expunged after a time so they may move on with life and get with the program. Sadly this is not the case and I for one will stand here and say it's a fucking shame.
Brewcrew2 299 posts, incept 2011-02-18
2014-05-19 23:09:16

Classic smear by Helinski. He figures his readers are too lazy or too dumb to fact-check his screed, so he'll just say whatever he wants, making shit up all along the way, and his dopey readers will take it as Gospel. Plus, he does you even dirtier by spraying a bit of "das waisis!" on you as well. Absolutely disgusting, and I'm unfortunately seeing a lot of that tactic recently. They must be teaching it in school because the young punks do it often.
Drkshapiro 783 posts, incept 2012-09-12
2014-05-19 23:09:28

I posted a reply on that site. Not that Karl needs help defending himself but because it's pathetic that you can't call black on black crime for what it is without being called racist. I would guess that if you grew up in Inglewood or South LA you'd have no problem recognizing black on black crime.

I get that it's harder to be black and I'm glad I am not for that reason. There are many racists and they'd look at you with insincerity. That's true, and life can suck.

If I were black, as many blacks have done and continue to do, I'd find a way to survive and prosper. I sure wouldn't want help from liberal whites. It would be degrading.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on Paul. --GBS
Travanx 4k posts, incept 2007-11-07
2014-05-19 23:09:35

My oldest son(32 now), trying to do the right thing, was convicted of felony DUI for sleeping in the back of a non-running car. After serving his 90 day jail sentence, he has not been able to work above day labor, minimum wage despite having some, in theory, marketable skills.

I fail to see how that stops someone from running their own business.

One topic of Gen's theory of not everyone starving in the streets, is that not everyone will starve in the streets. If you want to survive you come up with ways to survive. A lot of good would come out of bringing oneself up from the FSA.

When I read topics about this stuff I always think of people coming from 3rd world countries that make a living in the States. Yet people who were born here are being kept down? I don't believe that for a second.

Not going to click the linked article because it seems like its written for a different purpose. Was the linked article posted for click purposes only? Go back to first sentence to see how easy it is to make money on the internet without a background check.

Ow my balls!
Oldpool 1k posts, incept 2010-06-23
2014-05-19 23:09:44

I highly doubt the author is capable of continuing a rational discussion on this subject. More than likely a victim of his own education.

Liberty, Comrade!
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2014-05-20 07:02:13

Shapiro, you raise a good point about being black. One of the biggest strikes against being black is the stigma of being black. I guess you can reverse the roles, if you were white and found yourself in a black world. The one person that isn't color blind is likely the one who is a different color amongst others. I have been there a time or 2 with black people, Mexicans and Asians. That said, it is only a temporary situation with me.

Of course this isn't about being black so much as it is able political policy that has failed black people and the country. Organized theft through government is hard to stop. YouTube a guy named Mike Carroll for a different black view of this subject. Blacks don't even run the business in their neighborhood.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Gates 6k posts, incept 2008-01-29
2014-05-20 07:02:24

PH doesn't trouble himself with facts, which are easy to look up. Kind of like Holder suggesting Black male students should be given a pass for bad behavior that non blacks would be punished for - when there is an EMPIRICAL correlation between school aged black males being punished for bad behavior that virtually mimics incarceration rates for adult black males - not racist, fact. We can argue about the causes of the racial discrepancy in punishment rates - I blame Johnson - but the fact remains, blacks are their own worst enemy in the U.S. If I were to live in a country as a distinct racial minority, say S.A., I would recognize that I have a choice - assimilate, or LEAVE, I would never think that as 13% of the population I could force my will on the majority... eventually you will get DEAD with that game plan...
Truthseeker 9k posts, incept 2007-10-07
2014-05-20 09:04:52

I poked around the site a bit and was appalled by the facile stupidity demonstrated there. The shellacking provided by Mr. Denninger's readers didn't appear to need any bolstering, so I didn't bother. Thanks for a couple of terrific and entertaining Tickers!

'...But people better realize that the worst-case scenario could actually happen.9/11 happened. This can happen. An economic 9/11, the likes of which we've never seen.' Gerald Celente
Nma 309 posts, incept 2010-03-16
2014-05-20 11:17:41

Yep, now Karl is wayciss because he said Brosurance. My comments linking to

were deleted.

Whatever, I wasted too much time on this trash anyway.
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