I personally think that the issue makes a better 'Conservative' talking point.

The problem is entirely with those Who claim to be 'Conservative' Who are in fact not.

These Who would attack the point on Religious grounds are in fact Religious Ideologues masquerading as 'Conservative'.

This is one of the problems with contemporary Political labels: the labels are not reflective of the content.

This is what Karl is attempting to address.

There exists NO political 'Right' & 'Left'.

There is in actuality -a Triangle.

Religious Ideology is in one corner.

Fascist Ideology is in one corner. ( Socialism is always effectively a form of Oligarchy/Fascism )

Secular Liberty is in one corner.

I consider the preservation and protection of an Individual's Right to do whatever They wish as long as it does not infringe upon the Rights of Others a most Conservative position: Secular Liberty/Do no harm Capitalism.

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