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2021-01-13 09:34 by Karl Denninger
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Fauci, Birx, Biden, Trump, Health Departments: ALL LIARS
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How many more times do you need to see this folks?

A coronavirus outbreak has ravaged an upstate New York nursing home, claiming at least 32 residents’ lives in its deadly march, per multiple reports.

The outbreak at The Commons on St. Anthony in Auburn started on Dec. 21, according to CNYcentral.com. The latest death toll marks a surge of 20 additional residents since Jan. 5.

A spokesperson for the Loretto-owned facility, an organization that serves older adults throughout the region, said there are 104 ongoing infections, 46 recoveries and nearly 50 staffers in quarantine, per the outlet.

20 dead in the last week; that's impressive.  Why, it's about as impressive as our local medical facility here that is killing approximately half of everyone admitted for Covid.

What's even more impressive is the source of said infections: The "heroes" who work there and, we can assume, are all trained professionals who know how to use PPE such as masks, gloves and gowns.

Since all visitors have been barred from such facilities for months the only possible source of such an outbreak is the medical workers.

This is conclusive since nobody else has gone in there for months.

I have said since this started that the physics when it comes to viruses is clear: Masks are ineffective because they cannot work and it is a trivial matter of physics to understand why.  If a virus is carried on "droplets" or "aerosols" it does not matter; water, as the carrier, is divisible with almost zero shearing force, so as soon as a "droplet" gets where it has air motion available to it (e.g. through and to the outside of your mask) aerosol-sized particles will be sheared off and now are in the atmosphere.  One such particle is of sufficient size in an aerosol to carry enough virons to infect you.  If you wear a mask that has two-way flow through it (as do all surgical masks and N95s without valves) then you provide the tiny amount of shearing energy required every time you breathe.

If you wear a mask or other device with a valve then of course there is no protection from you as source control at all -- however, you may obtain some level of personal protection by doing so since you are now using a filter media as it is designed to be used with one-way flow.  But that's worthless when it comes to protecting others.

Of course all of this also implies adherence with protocols and proper fit so there is no bypass.  If you violate them in any way, such as taking a mask that has been exposed to pathogens from one place into another then you increase the rate of infections from not using a mask at all because you are transporting the virus from where it is not to where it now is.  That's stupid and when done by a trained professional it's criminally stupid.

I don't care how many times people with letters after their name keep bull****ting in the media or elsewhere; physics is not a list of suggestions and no amount of credentialism changes it.  

We've known source control doesn't work for 40 years and that finding from 1981 by random controlled trial has been challenged multiple times since through other trials and never falsified in a single such study.  Suddenly "computer models" have taken over and claimed to be science, which they never have been and still are not.

Meanwhile the overwhelming scientific evidence, which originally showed up in early spring of last year and has compiled a steady record of studies since, is that Ivermectin does work as both prophylaxis and treatment.  It has not only been ignored it has been claimed to have not happened at all, which is a ******nable lie.  There is no money in running a large random controlled trial for the drug since it's off patent and costs about as much as aspirin to make.  This is the very situation where if anyone in so-called "public health" gave a single **** about the life of a single person said pubic health agencies would spend some of the tax money they extract from you and from their "foundations" and "endowments" on such a trial themselves with sufficient size and proper design to get an answer they can defend either way.  They have not done so on purpose which is proof that they do not give a wet crap about the health of anyone and are simply political shills interested in shoving whatever their pre-decided "mandate" is into your body whenever it is ready -- in this case a not completely tested vaccine and they do not CARE how many tens or even hundreds of thousands of people die first.

I stand here today uninfected, without antibodies, as evidence that prophylaxis works.  Yes, scientifically it is very weak evidence because I am what is called a case study. No matter how many you have they do not form scientific proof and thus can never be the foundation for a mandate although every single mandate for masks, distancing and business closures has had no better evidence than my personal experience with prophylaxis!  But as for that case study here are the facts:  I have been around people in group settings consuming food and beverages at close range, which obviously means I cannot wear a mask and do so and neither can they, since the first of May.  Damn near everyone in that group has gotten the virus.  I am negative IgG antibodies; I have not had the virus.  I have been following a prophylaxis protocol since May and have not changed or otherwise modified it since the middle of summer.  There are only a few reasonable explanations for this -- I'm the luckiest SOB alive, all the claims about "asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic transmission" are lies, the virus is not spread to any material degree through the air (rather the vast majority of spread is in scat), this virus was here long before February of 2020, I was previously infected and while my antibodies have waned below detectable limits I still have T-cell recognition and thus cannot be re-infected or..... the prophylaxis works.

Any explanation other than "you're a lucky SOB" means the so-called public health "heroes" and medical "heroes" are liars

Those lies are why those people are dead folks and if you think I'm believing a single word out of their mouths about anything else related to Covid -- including the safety and efficacy of their so-called "vaccines" -- you're nuts.

Every single person wearing scrubs or working at such a place, and all of their family members who profit from and get their funds from anyone in such employment is in my opinion a lying murderous ******* and, as far as I'm concerned a permanent NPC who I shall not treat as even existing -- ever again.

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As I have related to you Karl, I talked to two PCP Doctors, here in Arkansas, on HCQ and Ivermectin for treatment, one told he would not prescribe it, the other told me she was prevented from doing so.

My follow up question should have been how many Lupus Patients do you have that are taking HCQ, and how many have come down with the virus. You and I have wondered about that and the CDC and Medicare refuse to release that information.

All this shows is that you as an individual must take treatment into your own hands if you can. When I see a doctor about something I research the hell out of it so I know what questions to ask and what treatment I am willing to do.

You are right the medical establishment has a lot of "Blood" on their hands and they just don't care.

The spread of the virus on that nursing home gets right back to what you said in your analysis as well as Fecal-Oral Spread. I do not agree with the so called "Front Line Heroes", are responsible for a majority of the spread and deaths.

Lord here in Arkansas they want to give the Front Line Heroes special tax breaks. What about all the other workers that have gone to work, they don't get any special tax breaks. I would, for example, give a tax break to the people who keep the water flowing and lights on. What Hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just to confirm, your prophy cocktail has been Quer, Vit D, and Zn?

I've been taking those for months, plus a multi, Vit C, Mg, EGCg and Resveritrol.

Haven't had any ab tests, but still symptom free after 4,000 maskless interactions with patients (them) at 14" distance.

**** I hate pill popping-- usually take them every 3 or 4 days.

Still not convinced in the droplet hypothesis as the main source of spread. My mask/gloves are donned/doffed properly. I wash my bloody hands. I don't touch my face. When eating food at the office that requires fingers, I wear a glove.

I have found through life that if one takes the opposite on anything the press claims, you will be healthy, wealthy and wise.

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Vit-D/Vit-C/Quercetin/Zinc.

I suspect the Vitamin D is the operative part of it for me, since I get a LOT of Vitamin C through natural sources (specifically, green cruciferous vegetables, which I eat in volume and are EXTREMELY high in Vitamin C -- more so than citrus by quite a margin.) The Quercetin/Zinc may also be operative but that is a reasonable hypothesis rather than evidentiary.

The Vitamin D connection, however, has quite-strong observational evidence by correlation; there are MULTIPLE studies showing that 90+% of those who have died of severe Covid-19, which without question was in fact in the causal chain of death, were severely deficient in serum Vitamin D levels. Since there is ZERO risk in making sure you're not and the association is insanely strong that, from my point of view, is likely the key item.

As I have repeatedly pointed out all drugs have risk and I have no reason, given my personal medical status, to particularly fear Covid-19 infection -- however, if I do get it then I will take additional steps to interrupt replication immediately on suspected infection.

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I am an RN and a Veteran. Work at the nearest VA from that place. Its all Remdesivir and Vaccine. Get my care here too. Ivermectin refused. I am in despair over the negligence and ignorance of my profession. Was asked to volunteer for the vaccine clinic. I declined based upon belief that this would violate my professional code of ethics. My days here are numbered. Strongly considering leaving the profession Im so ****ing disgusted.
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Rational thought and procedure has long ago been tossed. Some States do not associate a nursing home death with a patient who receives an end of life hospital visit. There are claims in MA that nursing homes are incentivized to accept covid patients. So-called isolation wards segregated from the general population are claimed but since factual cross contamination measurement is impossible the effect is only guessed.

There is also our cynical thought of "do they really care?" or "is every decision measured regarding political consequences?". I think we know the answer.
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I've flown over 90,000 miles since April 11th, 2020. I've eaten in over 100 restaurants. I sat three feet directly across the table from two! infectious individuals at Thanksgiving for over an hour. I've been to over 70 construction sites working inside the house in very close proximity (inches) to other people. I wore a mask at only ONE job site. No propholaxis. No virus.

I had a weird and extremely mild "flu" in mid March after returning from a five day work trip to Seattle. I'm guessing that was Ol' Rony.

Antigen test in July came back negative.

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Hey Karl, do you take your cocktail everyday? Once a week? Thanks
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We know the medical establishment cannot be trusted.
We know that PCR tests are no better than a ouija board.
Does anybody have any faith in ANY test that isn't self administered and interpreted?

Even then, these days I'd question the test itself....chances are, Big Pharma made it.

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People want to be lied to. I've come across quite a few attractive, smart women over the years who are just not happy unless they are hooked up with a guy who treats them like ****. I suspect that is much of the former US right now.

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Daily.

Just watch the doses for anything other than Vitamin C; there ARE maximum safe amounts and you can get into trouble over months or years of time with Vitamin D in particular as it's fat soluble and thus if you manage to accumulate too much it can take a VERY long time to clear -- there is potential PERMANENT damage that can occur too. More is not better! During the 1918 H1N1 pandemic a whole ****-ton of people killed themselves by ODing on aspirin based on theory if some is good, more is better. NOPE!

It's not very likely but if you get bit by that it's BAD. If you google around you'll see that the generally accepted maximum safe daily use of Vitamin D is 4,000 IUs -- which means the commonly-available supplements that come in 5,000 IU gels are potentially hazardous over long periods of time. Thus, choose wisely or limit the Vitamin D to every-other-day. Likewise there are plenty of Zinc supplements in the 50mg range which is above the maximum recommended safe consumption rate, but in that case it's not hard to find more-reasonable dose levels from the various supplement sellers. I have no ****ing clue why Vitamin D in stores is chock full of bottles materially beyond the recommended maximum daily consumption rate, but it is.

Vitamin C, on the other hand, has no such concerns -- it will give you the ****s in a bad way if used to excess but that's pretty much it. But again the issue once out of the deficient range I doubt you get much more protection and thus the real value is likely in not being in the deficient range with both.

You could likely stay well into the "not deficient" range on all of these by using any decent daily multivitamin (which typically have 1,000 IUs of Vit-D and ~11mg of zinc) along with a 1,000mg Vitamin C tab and ~200mg Quercetin capsule. The goal is simply not to be in the range where if you are exposed you get hammered, and the seasonal nature of respiratory viruses in general rather strongly correlates with natural solar exposure which generates Vitamin D.

Note that fortified milk only really has enough Vitamin D in it to prevent rickets in children; the usual fortification level is in the ~120 IU range per cup, and most kids drink somewhere around 2-3 cups/day if they consume it. For a young child that is likely enough to stay out of deficiency trouble. This may explain why kids rarely get materially symptomatic Covid-19 -- we don't know.

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I take 200mg Quercetin, 1000mg Vit C, 50mg Zinc and 10,000IU Vit D3 plus multi-vitamin, Super B Complex and Vit E approx 4 - 5 times a week. Resuming full business travel next week (I travel 50%+ per year) and am not afraid.
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Told a friend about ivermectin, he wrote it down and showed it to his dR.. the dr. told him that nothing works as a preventative and that he was not able to prescribe it. he then went on to tell him that the vet has it for dogs and that he should not lose that peice of paper.
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Yep...

How much more evidence do you need to prove that they know.

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And we are supposed to trust the "health care" (really sick care) system why?

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My vet does not stock it because he cannot make any money off of it. So, he went to tractor supply.

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Recently came across this 15 year old policy paper on how to deal with a 1918 scale flu pandemic. It's like we're determined to ignore or do the complete opposite of everything it recommends.

http://www.upmc-biosecurity.org/website/....


It notes that hospitals will act as infection amplifiers that seed the disease into everything they touch. Check.

It says that quarantines don't work and no research has ever been found which shows they're effective. Check.

It also discusses various 2nd order effects from various policy decisions, and how they must be accounted for when taking various actions.

And it concludes with the following:

"An overriding principle. Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted. Strong political and public health leadership to provide reassurance and to ensure that needed medical care services are provided are critical elements. If either is seen to be less than optimal, a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe."

Yeah.
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@Aerius.

Panic = Profit.

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It's all a crock!
It's all about the money, the federal reserve printing and spending, deciding winners and losers!

Both sides of the isle are one in the same! They both lead you on, outright lie and tell you it's for your own good!

Remember duck n cover? Yep putting on the mask of stupidity is part of the same program!
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Just posted a LONG twatter thread on that.

https://twitter.com/tickerguy/status/134....

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Onelegged:

FYIW, I know at least 3 others who've had that same "Bug" around March and no one seems to be able to figure out what it was.. All tests came back negative.. Hmm.
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lazer,

I described my symptoms from March to a guy who's wife is a directing nurse for the wing of a hospital in Indiana. When I looked up after describing my "illness" he was smiling and said "You definately had it!" He was laughing. He said his wife has seen those exact symptoms in the exact chronological order that I had them "Many, many times." since March.

That's 2/100ths of a dollar.

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Aerius wrote..
Recently came across this 15 year old policy paper on how to deal with a 1918 scale flu pandemic. It's like we're determined to ignore or do the complete opposite of everything it recommends.

http://www.upmc-biosecurity.org/website/....

That's a really nice find!

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Supposedly there is a T-cell test attempting to receive an EUA. Research has shown testing antibodies missed 23% of prior infection where the T-cell test only missed 3%.

The company is Adaptive Biotechnologies. They claim the test is available at https://www.t-detect.com/ for 150$ with a prescription but not available in NY.
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$150 is cheap considering what I've researched for this sort of test.

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