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2019-02-12 10:07 by Karl Denninger
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Sorry folks, how this was reported is not how I see it.

A police officer in Wisconsin miraculously managed to escape injury Monday when a semi-truck hit a patch of ice and slammed into the cop's vehicle, stunning video showed.

The incident happened around 9:30 a.m. as the officer was entering the intersection, Ashwaubenon Public Safety wrote on Facebook. The truck driver was attempting to stop, but hit a patch of ice and slid into the officer's vehicle.

The light had just turned; the road was icy and the truck driver was unable to stop.

The cop turned right into the path of the oncoming truck without looking first and despite having a green light his view was not obstructed and he proceeded from being stopped into the path of the oncoming vehicle (evident from the illuminated brake lights at the start of the clip.)

I don't care what color the light is if you proceed from a stop and don't look first you're the ******* and share responsibility for the resulting collision.

This is especially true when road conditions are compromised; in this case it's entirely possible the icing was local to the intersection.  While the truck driver is certainly able to be (and should be) cited the fact remains that the accident was entirely avoidable by the police officer; he intentionally drove into an intersection without first looking to see if it was clear.

Note that the car next to the cop did not similarly proceed and thus was not hit; he obviously, despite also having a green light, saw the oncoming truck.  The cop had a clear line of vision through the windows of the other vehicle and if he had looked before starting to move he would have known there was a 70,000lb vehicle that was not going to be able to stop.

While the trucker should be cited for traveling too fast for conditions (he was) the cop should be fired for intentional reckless conduct resulting in destruction of city property and if he is not the people of the town should refuse to pay taxes until and unless he is.

“When you're looking at the video it does appear that the truck was moving quite fast,” Captain Jody Crocker of Ashwaubenon Public Safety told FOX11. “The main thing there is the fact he had a red light. He should have been driving under the conditions where he'd be able to stop as that light was turning red.”

For the town to make that comment as a scold to drivers generally ought to met with a giant "**** you!" in response -- the officer had every ability to avoid that collision by simple observation before entering the intersection.

If I lived in that town every time I saw that jackass he'd get the bird for as long as he remained on the force since his intentional reckless conduct resulted in the bill being sent to me.  I'd also picket both the cop shop and both his and Crocker's house.  Doing what that cop did, while demanding someone else to pay for it, is worth (at least) a hearty **** you ******* each and every time I see someone until they pay up out of their own funds -- with interest.

The facts here are simple -- if I did that very same thing my insurance company would nail my ass to the wall for it and my rates would go up as a consequence of my reckless behavior, absent which no collision would have occurred -- and I'd deserve it.  At minimum so-called "public safety" officials should be held to the same standard as everyone else.

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Mangymutt
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"if you proceed from a stop and don't look first"

Drivers Ed 101 right there.

The cop obviously wasn't practicing what you (Karl) mentioned this weekend about paying attention to what other traffic is doing.

It could have been worse though. The truck could have been stopped, with the officer skidding through the intersection and hitting the truck. Bet the truck driver would have got a ticket for failure to stop.
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I tend to lean more toward having more respect for the laws of physics than whoever has the legal right-of-way. Force x mass and all that.

Back in the 20th century I may have had a boss at my pizza job who was a bit of an *******, so one night some playful little scamp put a sign on the top of his trunk lid that read "ALL TRUCKERS ARE PUNKS." I'm given to understand that his ride home on I-70 was that night was entertaining.

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You can see the truck driver also tried to steer around him and just couldn't (jack-knifed). He was definitely going to fast for conditions, but yes, this cop also deserves to be cited for causing an accident.

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This is why we have had dash cams on both our vehicles for the last couple years.
We were at a stop light and it turned green.
My wife said: "IT'S GREEN!"
And a couple seconds later a big 4 wheel drive truck went across our nose going a good 50 mph.
Then SHE turned green.
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I do not think the cop was turning right. I think he was going straight and not paying attention. Several looks at the video make me think he was going straight and not paying attention, you know, like he was concentrating on his cell phone conversation or texting.

Other than that, I try to make it a habit to use the left-right-left rule at every intersection every time.

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Quote:
This is why we have had dash cams on both our vehicles for the last couple years.
We were at a stop light and it turned green.
My wife said: "IT'S GREEN!"
And a couple seconds later a big 4 wheel drive truck went across our nose going a good 50 mph.
Then SHE turned green.


I had something similar happen in LA. I was first in line at a red light. When the light turned green I looked to the left and I saw a car approaching going at least 50 mph. He obviously wasn't going to stop so I waited. The guy behind me laid on his horn and 2-3 seconds later this idiot roared through the intersection. I poked my head out the window and stared at the driver behind me. He was sheepishly slinking down behind the steering wheel.
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I don't care if he was turning or not; he stuck his nose out into the intersection without LOOKING, and had a clear, unobstructed view.

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You won't believe this but just ten minutes ago on the way back from lunch I was in a left turn lane, light turned green and I looked both ways. A guy pulling a horse trailer ran the light from the left. Had I not looked he would have taken my front end off.

Looking left, right and then left again is sound advice. Years ago, I was at a four way stop in a rural area. I was the only one there so theoretically I didn't need to look as any other car would need to stop as I proceeded through the intersection. Looked left, right, took my foot off the brake, looked left again and saw a truck blow through going at least 90. There was a small hill about a 1/4 mile from the intersection that concealed him on the first look. Had I not looked again I would probably have been T-boned right in the driver's door.
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Why wasn't the cop cited?
The "Blue Wall".
Dad was hit head on in his own lane by a Miami Springs police car who'd turned out of a parking lot and used both lanes to do it.
Fortunately both were only going perhaps 10-12 mph.
Dad got the ticket.
The judge threw it out.
The city fixed Dad's bumper.
But his insurance went up.

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I'm about 90% certain the dumb cop was busy looking at giant damn computer monitor that all these vehicles are outfitted with. I mean, how do you miss seeing something that size? Even if he was looking straight ahead, his peripheral should have seen something so big. ABSURD!

As far as them saying he didn't get hurt, I bet he is feeling pretty sore a day or two later.
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I witnessed a similar accident at a busy intersection in NH. F150 truck was turning right, I was behind him and we were both stopped. Light turned green, he went forward and got T-Boned by a woman in sedan running thru the light. The Truck's back end swung right and the back tire clipped the curb sending the truck flipping 2-3 times and came to rest upside down. I ran over to the truck's driver side and the side airbags were deployed and I couldn't see in the cab to determine what condition the driver was in. I slowly pulled back the deflated air bad to happily see the driver was upside down but still seat belted in and unconscious. He came to and asked me what had happened. Told him a woman blew thru the light and hit him. I gave the cops my statement.
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In addition to looking left-right-left, I'll also add that I check my left mirror any time I have to turn left and there are cars backed up behind me. Driving my Ram 50 years back it saved me from a bike that thought it was a good idea to illegally pass a line of stopped cars on a double yellow doing 50-60+. He would have cut straight through me and probably ended up in the passenger seat if I hadn't looked first.

I also check mirrors at stop lights to see if I need to put my head against the headrest to hopefully lessen the whiplash in case someone is not stopping and I have nowhere to go. Haven't needed that one yet, but it's also why I leave the big hitch in my truck all the time.
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Karl you are spot on. As soon as I saw this my first thought was the cop should have known something was wrong when the car on his left did not proceed forward. That car might have been blocking his line of site but he should have known something was wrong. I had the exact same thing happen to me at a stoplight where my light turned green and the cars to my left did not move and I almost went ahead but I sensed something was wrong and what should appear was a small boy pushing his bike across the intersection. That could have been a life changing moment but thankfully it was not.

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If this cop was smart he'd put in for disability now.

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