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Fraudster
Posts: 4173
Incept: 2011-05-10
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Mr. Denninger, nothing you said is even remotely controversial. Chicago is going straight down the toilet, and I agree a large part of it is because citizens are rendered incapable of defending themselves.
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"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]." - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov
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Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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When I found out a friend was going to Chicago for her honeymoon, I asked a guy from there, "Who goes to Chicago for a honeymoon?"
He said, "Somebody who's never been."
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Tdray
Posts: 249
Incept: 2008-12-11
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I was up there this weekend; Actually far NW Burbs, to visit my buddies. I saw this crap on the news. They asked me if this is going on where I live in Kentucky. They figure that it is worse here since everyone has guns. I said hell no we don't have that since a perp knows he would probably buy it if he tried. I told my friends the only place I don't feel safe is at work. That's because I'm not allowed to carry in the office.
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54697
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Amen.
This is one of the major differences between Detroit and Chicago, the latter of which is far more dangerous than the former, despite Detroit's abysmal economic and physical state.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Flaps10
Posts: 5146
Incept: 2008-10-17
seattle
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Wait. You can post video of a beat down including someone's death on Facebook?
Is there still a "like" thumbs up next to it?
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"Better to die on your feet than live on your knees"
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Ladyliberty
Posts: 100
Incept: 2012-05-08
Wisconsin
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I agree Fraudster take away the guns from law abiding citizens and only the Chicago thugs/gangs have guns! This is definitely Rahm's fault along with the Black Community Leaders since the Black leader's were complaining about the "aggressive" (lol) tactics of the anti-gang squads so Rahm disbanded them. In a way though the Black community is now reaping what it sowed in Chicago they asked for this and they got it! "Even as violent crime has decreased in cities such as New York and Los Angeles, the murder rate soared here by 38 per cent in the first six months of the year. There were 259 murders in that period, with another 18 so far in July. "This is a block-to-block war here, a different dynasty on every street," said a dreadlocked young man heavily inked in gang tattoos who calls himself "Killer". "All the black brothers just want to get rich, but we got no jobs and no hope. We want the violence to stop but you ain't safe if you ain't got your pistol with you. Too many friends, too many men are being killed. We don't even cry at funerals no -more. Nobody expects to live past 21 here." The victims and killers are mainly black males aged between 15 and 35, often with gang affiliations - but not exclusively. A seven-year-old girl, Heaven Sutton, was buried this month after being gunned down at her mother's street sweet store. And last week, two girls aged 12 and 13 were shot and badly-wounded as they walked home from a newly-opened community centre. There have also been recent gang reprisal attacks along the city centre's "Magnificent Mile", an impressive stretch of skyscrapers and up-market stores, prompting fears that the violence is spreading. The mayhem, playing out within ambulance siren range of the Chicago home of Barack and Michelle Obama, has not just put a city on edge. It is also unleashing a passionate national debate on policing tactics. For the upsurge in gang killings has followed a decision by the city's mayor Rahm Emanuel and police chief Garry McCarthy, both new in the job last year, to dismantle specialist anti-gang units and instead switch more officers to the beat. But many terrorised locals are now pleading for a return to the aggressive stop-and-frisk tactics of the task forces that were long decried by black community leaders." in full http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew.... |
Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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Quote:Is there still a "like" thumbs up next to it?  |
Jinxx0r
Posts: 4230
Incept: 2007-08-10
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I don't want them to change a thing. The idiots, i.e. voters, in chicago who have created this are getting exactly what they deserve. You always get the government you deserve...
Just like obamao... when he is re-elected, we deserve it.
Thankfully, I am finally about to leave illinois. We're about to close on a 5 acre farm in Indiana and GTFO of here.
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Genesis
Posts: 130678
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Restore Constitutional Carry in Chicago and the murder rate will drop 80% within a year.
Mark my words.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Cbxer55
Posts: 70
Incept: 2009-07-01
Midwest City, OK
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And that stuff does not happen here in Oklahoma either. A lot of folks pack heaters, including myself. And quite a few of the people I work with are applying for permits, since I constantly urge folks to do so. Amazingly no one is insulted when I tell them to go get one. Starting in November, open carry will be legal for permit holders only, though I am not sure how many will practice this. Concealed is better, element of surprise. Oklahoma's permit is good in 33 other states as well.
I carry a Kimber 1911 in .45ACP with a spare magazine, and a North American Arms .32 Guardian with one spare mag. Also two folding knives, a small flashlight and a Leatherman utility tool.
Yeah, I am prepared.
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Ishmael
Posts: 4724
Incept: 2008-02-25
Los Angeles to Oklahoma, at least temporarily for now!
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As I have said for a while, Chicago = Detroit economically in its future!
Let us not forget they are both in heavily Communist oh I mean Democratic states.
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Hope is neither a good strategy or birth control methodology!
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Lowbeyond
Posts: 16866
Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
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Chicago.
The Progressive Paradise that spend years upon years and millions of dollars all to prevent a 70+ year old Black man from having a gun in his own home.
Good job progressives !
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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Noodleman
Posts: 2388
Incept: 2008-11-01
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I am very surprised that we haven't heard of any Paul Kersey's (aka Charles Bronson) popping up in Chicago. That is the kind of individual these types of situations breed.
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"Ammunition beats persuasion when you are looking for freedom." Will Rogers, 4 Nov 1879 - 15 Aug 1935
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Widgeon
Posts: 13481
Incept: 2007-08-30
Region formerly known as the United States
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Quote:I asked a guy from there, "Who goes to Chicago for a honeymoon?" I did. But, that was 1985. |
Dusty88
Posts: 126
Incept: 2011-10-21
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Unfortunately, what they are doing is ruining the rest of the state as well as Chicago. I grew up in rural Illinois but the reason I won't move back there are all due to Chicago politics. First, that I can't carry a gun. Secondly, that the state is going broke and trying to tax its productive citizens into failure.
Interesting factoid: the governorship was won by only 2 counties: Cook (ie Chicago) and Sangamon (contains the capital Springfield). He had a minority of the vote "downstate"... which is everywhere except Chicago.
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070969
Posts: 1147
Incept: 2009-04-10
CHICAGO
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Karl, I grew up two blocks away from where this happened....my parents still live there..for the last 50 years....This was always a peaceful area...There are
still old timers who have lived there for decades, senior citizens now who refuse to leave...I spoke to my father about this and he said the victim would come by going through garbage cans (looking for aluminum cans) that were located in the alleys...He said the victim was a very personable guy who was a fixture in the neighborhood...What has happened to that neighborhood is a tragedy...Ever since Daley knocked down Cabrini Green (housing projects)the whole area has become section 8(subsidized housing)....Up to this incident petty crimes etc...real tragedy....
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Jinxx0r
Posts: 4230
Incept: 2007-08-10
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Dusty88 wrote..First, that I can't carry a gun. Secondly, that the state is going broke and trying to tax its productive citizens into failure. The new pension plan idea is that they will push all pension obligations to the local counties\cities instead of the state handling them. They can't fix it politically, so they are going to punt. When they do that it's estimated that property taxes alone will need to go up by 20% to cover the shortfalls. If you're here when that happens you are trapped, because NOBODY will move into that property tax bill. My current property taxes in Illinois: $5500. The farm I'm about to buy: $721. Insane. |
Genesis
Posts: 130678
Incept: 2007-06-26
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070: I lived at 1135 West Newport for a while (townhouse, I owned it) and had friends all around the near-Northside from North Avenue up to Evanston.
I'm VERY familiar with the area.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me
Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.
What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Trades50
Posts: 4214
Incept: 2007-10-30
Land of Tax and Spend
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Quote: Thankfully, I am finally about to leave Illinois. Illinois has been steadily loosing population. The people remaining will pay higher taxes to make up the difference. Quinn has been buckling into the public unions. Chicago deserves downgrades in living standards and credit ratings.
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When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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Ishmael
Posts: 4724
Incept: 2008-02-25
Los Angeles to Oklahoma, at least temporarily for now!
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The new pension plan idea is that they will push all pension obligations to the local counties\cities instead of the state handling them. They can't fix it politically, so they are going to punt. When they do that it's estimated that property taxes alone will need to go up by 20% to cover the shortfalls. If you're here when that happens you are trapped, because NOBODY will move into that property tax bill.
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Sounds like Chicago will become Detroit over night with that one. They keep trying the same old tricks and expect a different answer. For the sake of the rest of the Midwest they should build a big fence around ****own and keep the criminals inside.
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Hope is neither a good strategy or birth control methodology!
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9515
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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**** trials, incarceration, etc.
Lets get real and march those worthless sack of **** murderous teenagers outside to be publicly executed! This should be televised nationally, and/or posted on Facebook.
TIME TO START TAKING OUT THE TRASH!!!!!!!!!
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Lowbeyond
Posts: 16866
Incept: 2008-02-11
CO aka West NJ/East CA
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Quote:Chicago deserves downgrades in living standards and credit ratings. What they will do is create more laws and fines. Then send out the union to shake down everyone else... Just watch
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Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future?!
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Ishmael
Posts: 4724
Incept: 2008-02-25
Los Angeles to Oklahoma, at least temporarily for now!
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Anyone with any money will flee and all that will be left are the poor. Once a city starts turning you better be one of the first to sell and leave or you will be caught continuing to attempt to sell your house but the market will drop faster than you can cut your price until most people are underwater on their mortgages and start walking and then you will be Detroit with houses selling for less than $10,000!
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Hope is neither a good strategy or birth control methodology!
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Aztrader
Posts: 6648
Incept: 2007-09-10
Scottsdale, AZ
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Chicago is one of the cities that we can't ship pepper spray or stun guns too. They don't allow thier citizens to defend themselves in any way. Fortunately, the suburbs don't follow the same reasoning. We ship a lot of stuff to most of the suburbs, but always get the question if it's legal or not.
Defending yourself in any way is a right that the city took away from the people. Liberals are brain dead when it comes to common sense and until they are personally violated, this will not change. When something does happen to them, they scream the loudest.
I am going to contact the gang task force to see if they have an interest in any of our toys. Chicago is just the start of things to go bad. I deal with police officers throughout the country and am hearing the same thing that things are really getting worse. In California, they are not going out on calls unless it's a murder, robbery in progress or anything major. Forget domestic disputes, burlaries, etc etc. One cop told me that they don't even let their cars idle anymore because they are trying to save money........
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