Zimmerman Bombshells: Mayor And Pictures
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Posted 2012-04-20 10:15
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Zimmerman Bombshells: Mayor And Pictures
 

From the bond hearing:

George Zimmerman was allegedly recognized by the Mayor for his intervention in the events surrounding the homeless (black) man that was beaten by a Sanford police officer's relative.

There has been a near-complete media blackout in this regard -- and questions about whether the letter published somewhat-recently was authentic.

Well, it appears (from testimony of his mother this morning) that the Sanford Mayor personally recognized George Zimmerman for his efforts to obtain justice for that homeless man.

And where is the media who tried to turn this into a racial issue? 

Just as importantly, where is the Mayor of Sanford who gave that commendation and thus knew damn well what the history of this man was when it came to his views on race?

Further there was testimony introduced this morning that George Zimmerman has been actively mentoring black kids in Orlando despite being urged not to by his mother as a consequence of the area of the city in question where he traveled to being a known high-crime area and thus dangerous to his person.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the media intentionally attempted to present a false picture of both the incident itself and George Zimmerman personally with regard to any racial issues surrounding this event.

Oh, and the claims that Zimmerman wasn't injured?  Here's a picture taken three minutes after EMS arrived:

Update: Not only is that damage consistent with the claim that Zimmerman was having his head bashed against the concrete sidewalk but two other things came out of the interview linked above that are of great importance to the development of facts surrounding that night -- the embedded data in the image file has a time stamp off the cell tower (it was an iPhone 4s) and geotag information from the phone's GPS matches the location. There's a high probability that photograph and the tags embedded in it will be deemed admissible evidence.  Second, the person who took the picture says Zimmerman was visibly staggering, which is consistent with a low-grade concussion from the impacts to his head.

Finally the witness said that there were visible powder burns on Martin's clothing (one of the questions I had originally as their presence would be expected given Zimmerman's narrative of what happened.)

If this all holds up it's pretty clear that the legal standard of objectively reasonable fear of great bodily injury or death was met for Zimmerman, and if so the shooting was justified -- period. 

Note that there is no resort to "stand your ground" necessary to reach that conclusion.

Prediction: This case is going to go nowhere and, in my opinion, Zimmerman has an excellent lawsuit against the media outlets for libel and/or slander and perhaps even against the special prosecutor for knowingly false and malicious prosecution.

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Guilty until proven innocent is alive and well in this emotional, knee-jerk culture.
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So, his mother is teaching him that "those areas" are dangerous to his person and he should not be associating with those in/from those areas, of course he had "some" friends from those areas?

classic.

IMHO, the attempts to make it both about and NOT about race are distractions.

The case as we know it now boils down to a very simple question.

Also, is it true or not that the Sanford PD on the night and next day of the event DID not believe Zim's story line?

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Really, the MSM and Obummer couldn't have picked a worse case to use for their racism argument distraction.

Think about it - in every way, what the media and the race hustlers said was 180 out of phase regarding the actual facts, those pesky, inconvenient things.

I hope Zimmerman files suit in the hundreds of millions against every MSM outlet, every MSM shill, Sharpton, Jackson, and every single member of the New Black Panther idiots. He will have earned every penny he wins...and more...and will score a big win for truth as well.

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Think about it - in every way, what the media and the race hustlers said was 180 out of phase regarding the actual facts, those pesky, inconvenient things.
Since when have the facts had anything to do with the preferred media storyline?

The damage is already done.

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So now I'm not a fan of huge settlements - but I do believe a punishment has to be a material loss. For all these news outlets to suffer a materials loss, he would have a few private islands to relax on...
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I know it's not likely to happen, but wouldn't it be great if this case was what finally silenced Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?
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Well done Karl, thanks again. Now, I pray Z will sue the ever loving **** out of the media.

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Prediction: Crickets to be heard soon from MSM regarding this case...

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AND TRUTH WILL PREVAIL, NOT about race, color or friggin Skittles & Iced Tea..
As stated by the poster above,, I'm not a fan of huge settlements either...
Though, in this case...
I hope GZ spanks the MSN & Media but F-in good.... X-10
As for the race baiters....
There the ones that should be smileysmiley
Duke laCross case all over again..?

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Primary arugment against this is that the DA saw the evidence but still decided to press charges, obviously her case must be strong.


...except this isn't an ordinary case, and to be seen doing "nothing" during an election year is career suicide.

But lets ignore those facts and keep Zimmers mugshot next to Trays middleschool pictures.
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Yeesh, Zimmerman is on the stand because he wanted to make a statement, and the prosecutor is destroying him.

Also, the prosecutor is a complete dick, and is playing theatrics for the camera.
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Wis/min beat me to it. Let's not confuse people with the facts after all they don't support the MSM/Obummer agenda.

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Question for Florida residents:

I'm hearing pieces of the bail hearing on the radio up here in Maryland. WHY are they discussing the evidence so much during a bail hearing? Isn't bail about whether a person is a flight risk and whether they will show up for trial? Is it different in Florida? Someone just called in to the radio show and said that in Florida, bail can be denied if there is a lot of evidence presented showing that the person is guilty. Is that true?

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Best guess is that the defense is attempting to lay the groundwork for a motion to dismiss.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Why do they have Zimmerman shackled? For dramatic effect? This is outrageous.
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WHY are they discussing the evidence so much during a bail hearing? Isn't bail about whether a person is a flight risk and whether they will show up for trial? Is it different in Florida?


The other criterion in FL is whether the person is a danger to the community if they are released. There is actually a list of specific factors they look at. The following is the statute:

903.046 Purpose of and criteria for bail determination.—
(1) The purpose of a bail determination in criminal proceedings is to ensure the appearance of the criminal defendant at subsequent proceedings and to protect the community against unreasonable danger from the criminal defendant.
(2) When determining whether to release a defendant on bail or other conditions, and what that bail or those conditions may be, the court shall consider:
(a) The nature and circumstances of the offense charged.
(b) The weight of the evidence against the defendant.
(c) The defendant’s family ties, length of residence in the community, employment history, financial resources, and mental condition.
(d) The defendant’s past and present conduct, including any record of convictions, previous flight to avoid prosecution, or failure to appear at court proceedings. However, any defendant who had failed to appear on the day of any required court proceeding in the case at issue, but who had later voluntarily appeared or surrendered, shall not be eligible for a recognizance bond; and any defendant who failed to appear on the day of any required court proceeding in the case at issue and who was later arrested shall not be eligible for a recognizance bond or for any form of bond which does not require a monetary undertaking or commitment equal to or greater than $2,000 or twice the value of the monetary commitment or undertaking of the original bond, whichever is greater. Notwithstanding anything in this section, the court has discretion in determining conditions of release if the defendant proves circumstances beyond his or her control for the failure to appear. This section may not be construed as imposing additional duties or obligations on a governmental entity related to monetary bonds.
(e) The nature and probability of danger which the defendant’s release poses to the community.
(f) The source of funds used to post bail or procure an appearance bond, particularly whether the proffered funds, real property, property, or any proposed collateral or bond premium may be linked to or derived from the crime alleged to have been committed or from any other criminal or illicit activities. The burden of establishing the noninvolvement in or nonderivation from criminal or other illicit activity of such proffered funds, real property, property, or any proposed collateral or bond premium falls upon the defendant or other person proffering them to obtain the defendant’s release.
(g) Whether the defendant is already on release pending resolution of another criminal proceeding or on probation, parole, or other release pending completion of a sentence.
(h) The street value of any drug or controlled substance connected to or involved in the criminal charge. It is the finding and intent of the Legislature that crimes involving drugs and other controlled substances are of serious social concern, that the flight of defendants to avoid prosecution is of similar serious social concern, and that frequently such defendants are able to post monetary bail using the proceeds of their unlawful enterprises to defeat the social utility of pretrial bail. Therefore, the courts should carefully consider the utility and necessity of substantial bail in relation to the street value of the drugs or controlled substances involved.
(i) The nature and probability of intimidation and danger to victims.
(j) Whether there is probable cause to believe that the defendant committed a new crime while on pretrial release.
(k) Any other facts that the court considers relevant.
(l) Whether the crime charged is a violation of chapter 874 or alleged to be subject to enhanced punishment under chapter 874. If any such violation is charged against a defendant or if the defendant is charged with a crime that is alleged to be subject to such enhancement, he or she shall not be eligible for release on bail or surety bond until the first appearance on the case in order to ensure the full participation of the prosecutor and the protection of the public.

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Get ready for the cities to burn.......
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Thanks, Gen and MDM. The "danger to others" part might be it. I personally don't think he is, but I don't get to decide.

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Has anyone explored the possibility that Martin and Zimmerman "knew each other" somehow? Maybe he was his dope dealer or something...
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Bond granted but with a relatively high amount ($150k) -- it will be interesting to see if he can raise the cash portion.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?

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Wonder if he'll be taking donations?
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Ricky, he is.

http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

And yes, that has been vetted as legit. His lawyer commented on it.

http://news.yahoo.com/attorney-zimmerman....

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I threw a chunk at him about a week ago and if there are other like minded people he should be able to make it.

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