Qualcomm Follows Sandisk: Ignore Cramer Folks
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Posted 2012-04-19 09:47
by Karl Denninger
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Qualcomm Follows Sandisk: Ignore Cramer Folks
 

Keep trying to believe folks.  It's important that you believe and buy buy buy so that your bags can be filled immediately prior to the rug being pulled out from under you.

What am I referring to here?  Specifically this -- first we had Sandisk say that there was a problem with demand in the flash memory business and now Qualcomm, the primary maker of cellphone RF chipsets used by companies like Apple, misses on forward guidance.

Both firms got skull****ed.

They don't ring a bell at the top folks.  But they do usually give you plenty of warning, if you're paying attention, that the high-fliers that you've all fallen in love with are about to take an iDirtNap.

Sure, Apple was up $25 yesterday, although right now it's down $5 and was down more than $10 earlier today.  The "buy buy buy buy!" jackassery, led by people like Cramer, is nothing new on Fraud Street.

You've been given all the warnings you're entitled to and then more.  If you ignore them here you deserve what you get.  Two of the most-connected suppliers to mobile device construction -- Qualcomm and Sandisk -- have warned, missed or both, citing soft demand in forward expectations.

Now maybe all the suppliers don't need to actually make things in order for final products to be produced.  Maybe Apple has figured out how to fill their devices with magic pixie dust instead of broadband chipsets and flash memory too.

If you believe any of that you need a lobotomy.

Bottom line: Mobile device saturation is being achieved and now the cost-shifted models that have been used and abused by various companies for the last several years are coming under attack as margins compress up and down the line.  This is is a trend, not a one-off.

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Cramer is an idiot. I read somewhere that a statistical analysis of his investment advice revealed that it's as "useful" as a coin flip.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424....

Qualcomm is saying that manufacturing is the issue. I take the point about wireless device saturation but you appear to be using Qualcomm's announcement to support that thesis in a way that doesn't fit.

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Go ahead and believe that if you want Rln.

I don't.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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And sorry for posting a subscribe only link. Unrealized when I did it
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And despite all the iPhones and androids we see running around in the States Nokia just recently slipped to #2 in smartphone marketshare. They put Qualcomm in their Lumias.

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Qualcomm is in basically ALL of the Verizon and Sprint phones; they're the CDMA people.

A Qualcomm miss on forward expectations is NOT GOOD for that entire segment of the market and I simply don't believe the excuses out of the company coming on the back of Sandisk's warning.

If it was JUST Qualcomm I might believe it. But not when coupled with one of the largest flash makers.

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Cramer. What an assclown. I remember watching him on CNBC(before I knew better) 6-7 years ago. He said don't buy AAPL because everyone already had an iPod. This is when AAPL was $20-30/share?

He was wrong on the way up and will be really wrong on the way down. Remember he was super bullish in early 2000 just before the huge NASDAQ crash.

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Which master does he work for. He was busy spruking ipads the other week when best outside estimates were sales where below expectations. Add that to the fact that guests can pay to appear on the show to push their products. He is probably good at what he does.
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My former roommate decided to get into day trading online as an amateur and was absolutely convinced he was going to make himself a millionaire in a few years. He started religiously watching Cramer on TV. At one point I said, dude just take that money you are going to invest and buy yourself a two week vacation in Spain. He didn't listen and several months later he had lost about $10,000 on WaMu. But hey, now he is in medical school and again expects to be a millionaire 10 years from now.
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There certainly seems to be some headwinds in mobile. You used to get a nice discount at upgrade time and get a leading edge phone for $100-200. My 2 years are up at Verizon and I can get a Droid Razr Maxx for $270!? F**k that. People like me are going to be keeping their hardware longer.
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If QCOM is, in fact, lying about their reason for the miss, does that not set them up for numerous stakeholder/shareholder lawsuits? Not that we should believe anything these Wall St companies say, but I would like to hear what their motivation might be to commit fraud on ONE specific earnings release... Hey, give me that reason and I'm happy to add them to my short list for the very-near future.
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Don't the CDMA people have a built in product demand as phone's batteries die or as phones get trashed?

When the books are cooked, which straw is the last straw?

Morgan Stanley moving some derivative business to higher rated units, i.e. FDIC supported banks?, in face of possible rating downgrade.

http://news.yahoo.com/morgan-stanley-los....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-19....
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