ISDA: All Your Bonds Are Belong To Us
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Posted 2012-03-01 08:24
by Karl Denninger
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ISDA: All Your Bonds Are Belong To Us
 

This is beyond ridiculous.

ISDA—the organization that determines when a credit event has occurred—announced this morning that a credit event had not yet occured to trigger payouts on $3.25 billion in Greek credit default swaps.

However, that does not mean that a credit event may not be triggered in the future.

Two questions were asked of the committee: first, if making the European Central Bank a preferred debtholder by not including it in the debt restructuring constituted a credit event, and second, if the retroactive inclusion of a collective action clause (CAC) in the terms of Greek bonds had triggered a credit event.

In other words, the terms of a contract does not matter; unilateral changes to those terms are not a "credit event" and the "insurance" you allegedly bought to protect against this is worthless.

Who sits on the committee?  The majority are the very banksters who have been writing these "policies" and thus would have to pay.

That's kind of like buying homeowner's insurance and then after a tornado occurs having the "committee" (which happens to include the firm that wrote your policy) "determine" that this particular tornado isn't really a "tornado" under the definitions they used (oh, we'll call it "the finger of God" instead!) and thus it is excluded under the "acts of a*****ed off belligerent" clause.

Yeah, you'd be inclined to buy insurance again after that..... and you wouldn't be inclined to find the committee members and hold their heads under water until all of their "witchiness" was excised..... right?

This sort of wordsmithing is not a surprise to me.  But the impact, is, or at least should be, a different matter.  Removing the value of these hedges -- which is exactly what this sort of "determination" does -- would be expected to destroy this market and expose the positions allegedly "hedged."

It probably won't, because as I have maintained since it was disclosed that Wachovia was writing credit-default insurance themselves and selling it bundled with subprime tranches writing fire insurance on your own house, where all the assets necessary to pay the insurance are in the house, is a pure scam as if the "event" happens the assets necessary to pay will have gone up in smoke!

In other words, it is and has been my opinion that these sorts of "policies" are really nothing more than a complex (and perhaps legal although if so it shouldn't be) form of a "side letter." 

"Side letters" are a practice in the insurance business that is explicitly illegal because they are fraudulent.  The company issues a "policy" but then also issues a "side letter" in which both the insured and company agree that no claims will be filed.  In effect what has happened is identical to you paying a company $100 for a card that says you have auto insurance to meet a regulatory requirement (e.g. "you must have insurance to drive") but in fact you have no insurance; the entire purpose of the alleged "policy" is simply to present the appearance of coverage. 

The usual purpose for this in the "side letter" game is to screw with regulators who (properly!) demand coverage of risks in order to meet capital ratios.  When the risk is too expensive to actually insure a "side letter" is used to scam the regulator into believing that a hazard is covered when it really is not by failing to disclose the existence of the side letter to them.

There was a major scandal in this regard in the middle part of the 2000s; the problem from a regulatory standpoint is that the regulators, as a general rule, seem to always find a way to not treat the representation that an entity has coverage against an event that turns out to be crap as an act of perjury -- either by not demanding that all statements made to it be made under the penalty of perjury in the first place, or simply looking the other way at what amounts to bank, insurance or securities fraud.

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Rdaniels
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Credit Default Swaps are nothing but a scam for banks and finanical institutions to move assets off balance sheet so minimum capital requirements can be exceeded.

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You'd think that would hurt future sales of this product lol

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I'm shocked, shocked!
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Nothing about Greeces bond prices would indicate a pending credit event. Yeah and I need to find a virgin to lure in the unicorn thats running around the state park near my house.
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Greek 1-year above 920%

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CDS are just an elaborate shell game of self dealing between the banks and connected people, hedge funds.

I mean just studying a few of the terms and you can see it for the fraud that it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_defa....

The buyer of a CDS does not need to own the underlying security or other form of credit exposure; in fact the buyer does not even have to suffer a loss from the default event.[18][19][20][21] In contrast, to purchase insurance, the insured is generally expected to have an insurable interest such as owning a debt obligation;
the seller doesn't have to be a regulated entity;
the seller is not required to maintain any reserves to pay off buyers, although major CDS dealers are subject to bank capital requirements;
insurers manage risk primarily by setting loss reserves based on the Law of large numbers, while dealers in CDS manage risk primarily by means of offsetting CDS (hedging) with other dealers and transactions in underlying bond markets;
in the United States CDS contracts are generally subject to mark-to-market accounting, introducing income statement and balance sheet volatility that would not be present in an insurance contract;
Hedge accounting may not be available under US Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) unless the requirements of FAS 133 are met. In practice this rarely happens.

Hey lets all hang out a shingle..."CDS R Us"...I'm sure we would all be happy to sell billions of this junk seeing as we NEVER will have to pay off on them and why shouldn't we be able to do this if we dont have to be a regulated entity.....Free money.

Personally I will be happy to sell any banker or hedge fund CDS on practically any sovereign debt...just contact me through Karl....I'll fix ya right up!

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In other market comedy........there's this.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bonus-with....

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Gen wrote..
Yeah, you'd be inclined to buy insurance again after that.....
Yep, in doin this, they are destroying the value and credibility (whatever value/cred there was left anyway) in these CDS instruments. This is good, now it should be apparent to everyone that this is just one big circle-jerk scam.

Gen wrote..
When the risk is too expensive to actually insure a "side letter" is used to scam the regulator into believing that a hazard is covered...
Hmm.. I get the "side letter" scam, but it seems to me that these risks were and have been OVER-insured.. I've read here and elsewhere that insurance was taken on risks up to 10 times over.

To me, that explains the reluctance to declare an actual "default" event. Every default would be magnified by 4, 5, 6, 10X because they've been insured multiple times.

Instant Insurance Company (Bank) detonation, right????
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So ISDA come out with this **** and BTP goes to a record high! don't get it

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Andyc,

Good info..

It's painfully obvious to me that if you don't require an "insurable interest" and allow a risk to be insured multiple times over you're guaranteed a front row seat as the shining star goes super-nova ;)

Talk about moral hazard!

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Andyc - that article is great, thanks. Oh the pain for the banksters!

It's a little late coming for them - if it is not all an election year show - "Oh look we're hurting too, bonuses are down".

Jump you ****ers.

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Rules, laws, enforcement? Are you crazy? If the rule of law were followed, the market would crash and the banksters would lose their bonuses.......

Every one of these banks are walking on a tight rope. They don't value the derivatives on their balance sheets and trade them thru shadow exchanges. This is about as close to the MOB running things as we have seen in history.
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Federal District Court...South Mississipp...ruling on wind/water damage after Katrina. When 1 house blows down...payment; when 2000 blow down......wind, what wind? It was water. No coverage.

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word was, the Judge was told there would never again be house insurance on the MS gulf coast if he found WIND.
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If this action doesn't bring the demand for CDS to near zero, I will guess that the buyers never intended to collect - that it was all just a side-letter-style scam.

If the regulators continue to fall for the scam after this, it will be pretty hard for anyone to believe that ``regulation'' means what they want us to believe it means.

The fraud is getting pretty blatant.
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How were any of the CDS's on subprime defaults? There never was an offical default on any of it, merely a decline in value. If 75% isn't a decline in value, one that is never coming back, what the **** is it? These guys did nothing but get together and make AIG a money pit. There wasn't a default to pay, just a decline in value. Greece isn't paying 75% of the value of their bonds. This is an out in the open default. There isn't anything going to come back. This is like there being 10 people playing blackjack. When the dealer gets 21, the people get to keep their money, when the dealer wins or the player busts, they still get to keep their money and they get paid by the dealer.

These guys are playing a game where the rules are rigged 100% in their favor and if that isn't good enough, then they are given more money. There is no CDS market. There is only a CDS market when these MOTHER****RS are on the receiving end. THERE IS NO CDS MARKET. EVERYTHING WE BUY FROM THESE BASTARDS ARE TAINTED. NYSE, DOW, NASDAQ, US TREASURY BONDS, JUNK BONDS, GOLD, SILVER, CORPORATES, SWAPS, OPTIONS, YOU name it. This situation is worse than the casino, where you do have a chance, if you are really diciplined, to make a few bucks now and then. Dealing with these guys are like dealing with a pit of rattlesnakes (Andrew Jackson called them a den of vipers), where you can't kill or eat the snake. You can only get bit.

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Fine. But since this shows that the CDS is worthless, the default risk should be placed back on the balance sheets. This game of trying to have it both ways is quite irritating. I'd like to have this question put to the appropriate banking and accounting regulators to see how they try to squirm out of this.

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Exactly.

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They will have to pay on Greece eventually. Or else the CDS market goes away.

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The CDS market has already gone away. There was a trillion on GM, from what I recall. Why wasn't it paid or was it? They wiped the bond holders and the stockholders out. I read years ago from Fitch or S&P or Moody's that the typical recovery from a corporate liquidation at the time was 25%. This is what they are getting out of Greece. This suddenly makes me wonder if these bastards didn't collect from AIG and are still carrying the CDO's on their books at par? When Rick Santelli read the voters on this panel, I about fell out of bed. These ****ers have been given the power to define anything as they want it. These are also the shareholders of the Federal Reserve and most likely the other CB's around the world, which are full of this junk. These bastards are broke. We should make them pay their debts or fold.

Randy, the rate on Greek CDS's are way over 100% annually. By the time they pay, they would have received well over 100% of what they pay out. The premiums should be refunded, as we are dealing with a nudum pactum orito, a contract void due to lack of consideration.

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@ Mannfm11

You would not last one vote as part of the "change the rules committee."

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Ok - so what does this change? What's tradeable here? Obviously, CDS's are a gigantic scam of whatever variety.

Also, obviously, CDS's are going to be conitnued to be considered valid insurance.

So, all the banks,hedge funds, and etc. who use these to "hedge" their balance sheets have no reason to change their behaviour.

So, what comes out of this? My take is nothing. Even though they're obviously meaningless, the CDS market will continue to operate as it has previously. Enabling absurd amounts of leverage in all those TBTF or politically connected entities involved.

Bottom line, kick the can another few years down the road?

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The collective action clauses can't be ruled on until they're actually used against the holdouts. CDS question still way up in the air.

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