Lagarde: A Desperate Scream For Help
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Posted 2012-01-23 09:58
by Karl Denninger
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Lagarde: A Desperate Scream For Help
 

Oh please Christine....

"It is about avoiding a 1930s moment, in which inaction, insularity, and rigid ideology combine to cause a collapse in global demand," IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde said in prepared remarks before the German Council of Foreign Affairs in Berlin. "A moment, ultimately, leading to a downward spiral that could engulf the entire world," she said.

The dire warning from the IMF's top executive is designed to spur political action in Europe and within the Group of 20 industrialized and developing economies and avoid the political stagnation she said exacerbated the crisis.

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

The situation facing Europe and indeed the developed world is much like a gambler who walks into the casino with a bankroll and sits down at the tables.  He loses the first few hands but feels the "old alchemy", and much like a drug addict he likes the rush that is produced, even as his stack starts to dwindle toward zero.  This is akin go the first political promises made to give handouts to people that have no funding behind them.

As the stack in front of the gambler dwindles, however (and the political promises pile up debts) the level of desperation rises.  Now euphoria is replaced by sweat.  You see, the gambler came to the casino with the mortgage payment and electric bill as his stake, just as the IMF committed billions knowing that the entities involved in the game -- in this case Greece -- lied to get into the Euro and did so with the explicit support and participation of many of the world's largest financial institutions.

So now, having lost the original bet, we have the doubling down.  And the doubling down on the doubling down. 

Anyone who has gambled knows how this ends -- in bankruptcy.  Oh sure, there's the chance that you will pull off the big hand, that you will get back what you lost.  It's the nirvana that is always just around the corner, just one more hand, just one more pull of the slot machine handle, just one more hit off the crack pipe and you'll stop....

There is no stopping other than by force, ladies and gentlemen, and that force needs to be applied to the neck of people like Christine Lagarde by the governments involved.

There is simply no other way.

You cannot solve a debt problem with more debt.  You cannot resolve the issues that face the world economy with more borrowing and you cannot "grow out of it", as mathematically you must either grow faster than the debt increases or shrink the debt faster than GDP decreases.

This is mathematical fact, not politics or policy.

Lagarde doesn't want to talk about mathematics and she's not alone.  The rest of the developed world is likewise unwilling to face facts when it comes to the mathematical certainties that underpin what is going on in the economy on a global basis.  The IMF states that "a collapse in demand" will lead to a global Depression (true) but refuses to admit that "demand" fueled by deficit spending is in fact false; it is "demand" that does not actually exist in the economy as a consequence of actions by people and is instead a reflection of "free stuff" being handed out by those governments.

But "free stuff" is never actually free.  It is only a pull forward of demand into today from tomorrow.  Then, when tomorrow comes, we do it again.  And again.  And again.

For how long can this continue?  Can it contiunue forever, as people like Lagarde claim?  Of course not.

Can we expect productivity and improvement in the economy to lessen and fix sovereign balance sheets?  No, because the deficit spending has not stopped and nobody intends to stop it.

But until it does stop, and until the facts are faced there is no resolution, there is no adjustment in the general price level, there is no recognition that the people of these nations have lived at a standard of living that exceeds their ability to earn.

Until that changes -- whether by choice or force -- there is no resolution to the underlying problem, and thus all so-called "recoveries" will be both short-lived and false.

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Jotapay
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She does sound desperate. But she appears to not have any real solutions either.
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It's because there aren't any. You can't fix a debt problem with debt and you see how cutting government spending, i.e. "austerity" is working in Greece. The FSA of crackhead-like thinkers are just not going to allow politicians to cut off the spending, and politicians aren't going to do anything to jeopardize their re-election chances.

We are so fooked, there and here both............
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rigid ideology


You've got to be kidding me.

These people are SUCH useful schmucks for the political class that is hell bent on perpetual ponzi everything.

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Thanks to Karl and the MT folks I feel like Sarah Conner in the Terminator movies...you know the world is going to change dramatically and all you can do is prepare for it...I just wish the last shoe would drop and we get on with it since what it would take to actually "fix" things is never going to happen.

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All thats left to do is talk.

and smiley of course.

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More political nonsense. The IMF is the international looting arm of bankers that make bad loans. The casino gambler damn sure doesn't get up from the table and pretend all his losses were actually plays that will pay off and it appears the bankers do in fact believe or at least pretend to believe this nonsense.

The bankers at the table went bust and this is what the whole matter is about. They owe their creditors more than they can collect and the game is now to rearrange the facts so the truth isn't true. The shareholders of banks should be like the investors in Greek bonds, trying to bargain for how much of nothing they get to keep. 10 to 15 percent should be maximum for most of them and if they don't like it, the governments should take the banks over and give them nothing.

The only way to fix the banks is to shift much of the non-equity credit on the balance sheet to equity credit. Paid in capital in a bank and retained earnings don't exist as money available for distribution in the system, but merely potential collateral for more credit. The mathematical impossibility is that all the loans on a bank balance sheet are good because the nature of bank lending is that it is a form of counterfeiting and the interest is never countefeited. A banking system in balance is such that assets and liabilities grow very little year to year and interest is paid out to shareholders or used directly for new loans. Compound growth in banking can't go on because the compound growth is the extent of the unfundable over time. The paradox is the system as it is operated requires compound growth go on or the whole stack of accumulated interest collapses.

There are some exceptions to this, like property received in lieu of payment, but this property itself requires new money in order to financially function. If the banker sells the property for cash, it pulls from circulation the means of repayment of other existing loans.

Absolute money supply based on such a system cannot exist for long. Long being over many lifetimes. Karl hits that idea right on the head, when he mentions that LaGuarde seems to believe this can go on forever. Only if the bankers find a way to systematically rob their depositors and put the onus of their bad lending on the public balance sheet. Point being that the money in accounts cannot exist in excess of (total loans-(nonperforming loans-capital)).That is, if nonperforming loans exceed capital, the difference really doesn't exist in the accounts of the bank. Telling the average Joe the truth would wind many bankers up hanging from all kinds of public structures. The strategy is clearly to shift as much of the publics money supply to the bankers accounts, so they too are creditors of their own malfeasance.

Anyone who doesn't understand how banking works needs to go read Murray Rothbard at Mises.org. Reserve banking is insolvent from its origins. So is the central banking federal reserve and other banks. The problem in Europe is the central banking outfits, the ECB and IMF have bought more crap than they can back up now. What they think they are going to do is impose haircuts on the remaining creditors and enforce austerity and repayment on the various governments.

What we have witnessed over the past 75 or so years is multiple hidden haircuts on bank liabilities. This is what inflation is all about. It is what FDIC insurance is all about, as the depositors are going to pay the bill, not the bankers or the government. In the meantime, the bankers are taking our property and we are liable for the debts. In every case it has been our money in their accounts that has been haircut and not the illgotten gains of the bankers. Money created on the backs of bad loans is fraud.

The big question is which of these currencies is going to blow up first? The Fed not only has their mortgage payment on the table, but ours and a lot of other peoples as well. The ECB is loaded with crap debt. Japan is waiting for the world to blow it up. The Bank of China is Bernanke on crack. There is a worldwide vested interest in the dollar and short of intentional suicide, none of the foreign holders are going to blow it up on purpose. the wealthy in China might need a place to go after their country has been totally poisoned and the natives get*****ed over there.

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Anyone who doesn't understand how banking works needs to go read Murray Rothbard at Mises.org


I second this. The Mystery of Banking is an excellent primer. He is a goldbug so you were warned. I stopped reading once it got into the gold buggery.

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What we have witnessed over the past 75 or so years is multiple hidden haircuts on bank liabilities. This is what inflation is all about. It is what FDIC insurance is all about, as the depositors are going to pay the bill, not the bankers or the government. In the meantime, the bankers are taking our property and we are liable for the debts. In every case it has been our money in their accounts that has been haircut and not the illgotten gains of the bankers. Money created on the backs of bad loans is fraud.


Yes. For my part, I will take on no debt of any kind and will therefore not be assisting in perpetuating this ponzi fraud.

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The bankers at the table went bust and this is what the whole matter is about.


...and that's the beauty of it. If the people only realized that they call the shots now....things would change.

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No debt for me either. F that!

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One point I don't see clearly in this thread is how the goals of the "bailout babies" (i.e. the people who whine for bailouts and interventions to pull forward demand by creating debt now and ignore the laws of math) and the "environmentalists trying to stop global warming" are opposite. If the government prints a trillion dollars in order to stimulate the construction of paper mills, steel mills, factories, etc. then we're going to be stimulating the growth in pollution, global warming, etc. towards the destruction of our planet's ecosystem and environment. A lot of birds have to sacrifice their nests anytime a forest gets chopped down to increase GDP. I say all this with the caveat that I'm am not a treehugging radical environmentalist. But I do see that "stimulus" not only stimulates GDP but it stimulates environment destruction.

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The way I see the gambling analogy, the sovereigns are like casino owners who the players -- the banksters and leech****s, that is -- have conned into a game that is rigged AGAINST THE HOUSE.

And why not? It's no skin off the politicos' butts to stay in the game, since it's the taxpayers and the real economy that are the ones bankrolling the house.

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Mann wrote..
Anyone who doesn't understand how banking works needs to go read Murray Rothbard

Yep, and some of the other great Austrians as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Sc....
Although by advocating this, one risks being branded a heretic here. smiley

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Gold is only one part of the Austrian economic thought. Mises knew what excessive credit did. The entire idea of what role banking plays in economic messes seems to be totally lost on all other forms of economics. It is the destruction of capital that is the end result. There really isn't anything but gold or to a lesser extent that stands alone as money. Merely printing money and calling it money won't work as an exchange of value. We lose our currencies, they won't come back without gold.

One other thing about Austrian economics is it is the economics of truly free enterprise.

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BTW, if you read the forward to this book, it appears Rothbard may have founded the libertarian party.

http://mises.org/books/betrayal.pdf

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