2dogs, I don't believe for one second that Hawaii provided anything other than an emailed comment "yes, it exists". I also don't believe for one second that one actually does.

Millions have died defending less.

Despite a frustrated GOP, anti-Obama 'birthers' still persist

By Peter Hamby, CNN Political Reporter

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/23/politics/b....

Nice find, Drench!

Quote:

"Many people do not think [his birth certificate] was authentic," Trump said. "Frankly, if you would report it accurately, you would probably get better ratings than you're getting."

Later in the segment, Trump accused Blitzer and CNN of covering the birtherism charge "because you feel its probably going to get a few more people watching your station, which they're probably not doing."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012....



Leave it to the "CNN Political Unit" not to cover that. Is that a euphemism for Wolf's wang?

And Romney released his own birth certificate today, says Reuters.

Quote:

Finally, there is definitive proof: The presidential candidate was born in the United States, and his father was not.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/2....

PDF link http://static.reuters.com/resources/medi....

http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-....

Hawaii Senior Elections Clerk: “Barack Obama Was Not Born In Hawaii”

Frrom Redhatty's link:

Quote:

“Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii,” the former elections clerk continued. “It (Pg. 31) was openly admitted by everyone in the office who was above me, at least my immediate supervisors, that there is no documentation.” Adams details the governmental databases and other means of authentication used included “NCIS, Social Security, all these other things we use on average voters; there were two people higher than me in our office, who are under the City Clerk of Honolulu. . .”

This deserves its own Ticker!

Not to belittle the substance, but IIRC the clerk's statement is at least a year old ... its gone nowhere too.

Here is Zullo's update so far on his time in Hawaii...

Tim Adams is quite the character if you are to believe anything from this write-up: http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports....

fogbow?


That sycophantic website and discussion forum is led by "Foggy" (aka Bill L. Bryan), a California attorney who has been disciplined multiple times and was forced to relinquish his license with state charges pending.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/....

Seriously, why are people so freaked out about other CITIZENS insisting on seeing proof that the so-called president was actually born here? WTF, prove you are eligible ... period. Of course, there is only one reason why they are freaked out.

got to prove it for little league and youth sports in EVERY ****ing town in the USA

That's a good question isn't it? This issue shouldn't freak people out the way it does.
what I find interesting is that is appearing to embrace this issue. that means he thinks there is some value to his campaign.

You need to produce it for virtually everything of consequence any more. To enroll in school, the get a job, etc.

Liberty Legal Foundation email 6/8/2012....

Later this month Liberty Legal Foundation will be filing its petition for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the Georgia Supreme Court’s ruling that Obama is a natural born citizen. As you know, Liberty Legal Foundation represented David Welden, one of the plaintiffs in the Georgia ballot challenges, earlier this year. Our efforts resulted in the first court ruling to reach the merits of an Article II challenge against Obama. All previous courts had dismissed such challenges on procedural grounds.

The Georgia Administrative Court and the Georgia Secretary of State both erroneously ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen because any person born on U.S. soil is, according to them, a natural born citizen. The Georgia Administrative Court was the first court to make such a ruling and have the authority to do so. Of course the ruling was wrong, but that is what we will be arguing to the Supreme Court.

In order to get there, we must show the Supreme Court that we have a case that allows the Court to reach the substantive issue. Please understand what I’m saying here because it is historic and critical to this entire eligibility fight. So, let me say it again: Never before had any court, anywhere in America, had authority to rule on whether Obama is an Article II natural born citizen, and actually made a ruling on the substance of that issue. Every other court had either dismissed on procedural grounds or ruled without authority to do so. This is why this issue has not previously reached the U.S. Supreme Court on the substance of the issue.

Many reading this will point to an Indiana Appellate Court decision from 2009, claiming that the Indiana Court had decided this issue. It is true that the Indiana state court ruled in Arkeny v. Governor that Obama was an Article II natural born citizen. In fact the Georgia Administrative Court relied on Arkeny, claiming that the Indiana Court had decided this issue. However, the Indiana Court’s own opinion admits that it didn’t have jurisdiction. Therefore the Arkeny Court had no authority to decide the Article II issue. The fact that it ruled on the issue, after admitting that it had no authority, simply proves that that court was yet another activist court full of judges willing to reach beyond the authority that we’ve given them.

You see, the Arkeny Court ruled that the plaintiff challenging Obama in Indiana didn’t have standing. When a plaintiff lacks standing, the court lacks jurisdiction. Which means that the court has no authority to decide the substantive issue of the case, even if it wants to do so. The Arkeny Court admitted that it lacked standing, and then it ruled on the substantive issue anyway. The judges in that case should be ashamed of themselves. Their ruling reflects either judicial activism at its worst, or inexcusable incompetence.

The reason the U.S. Supreme Court has refused to address the Obama Article II eligibility issue is because every case that has come to them so far reflected a lower court dismissing on procedural grounds, or a court ruling on the Article II issue when it had no authority to do so. In either case, the Supreme Court would not have been able to address the Article II issue, it would be forced to rule on the procedural issues or the lack of jurisdiction of the lower court. That is why Liberty Legal Foundation’s appeal from the Georgia courts is different.

David Welden, our plaintiff in the Georgia eligibility case, had clear standing because Georgia state law granted him standing. In fact, no defendant or court ever questioned our plaintiff’s standing to bring his case. So, the Georgia courts had jurisdiction to rule on the Article II issue. Because of that, Liberty Legal Foundation’s petition to the U.S. Supreme Court represents the first real opportunity for the Supreme Court to address the substance of whether Obama is an Article II natural born citizen. All previous cases were mired in procedural muck. Our Georgia case is a clean ruling on the substantive legal issue. If the Supreme Court is going to accept any case on Obama’s eligibility before the general election, it should be ours.

We need your help. Preparing our petition is labor intensive and expensive. If you are able, please donate $5, $10 or more today. Please also spread the word about Liberty Legal Foundation to your social networks, letters to editors, and community groups.

Thank you for standing with us for Liberty,

Van Irion, Founder

LIBERTY LEGAL FOUNDATION

I hope i'm "posting" in the right Area, eg: this Thread...

Court refuses to hear 'birther' argument again

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal challenging President Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship and his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.

Without comment, the high court on Monday refused to hear an appeal from Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the challengers did not have legal standing to file the lawsuit.

The U.S. Constitution says only "a natural born citizen" may serve as president. The challengers allege that Obama, whose father was Kenyan, was born in that African country, rather than in Hawaii. They claim his Hawaii birth certificate is a forgery. Hawaii officials have repeatedly verified Obama's citizenship.

Keyes and Drake ran against Obama on the American Independent Party ticket and Robinson serves as the party's chairman.

(Various News Sites Reporting)...
in this case, the Sac bee..
http://www.sacbee.com/

So how, exactly, are you supposed to have standing for this crap?

We, as his employers don't have it. His opponents don't have it... Who the **** does?

No ****.