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Mpilar
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Truth, if they implement that, I won't simply be a scofflaw...I'll start making headlines.

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Well, if it matters much, I sat all of the animals (cats, dogs, chickens, rabbits, and Coco the pregnant pygmy goat) down today and told them that we needed to lower our carbon footprint to avoid being fined. Asked if anyone had any suggestions. (The mice weren't in attendance.)

After a period of silence, I told them that they can breathe in, but they can't breathe out. They looked at me like I was crazy. I wonder why. :-)


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GFB:smiley

Mpilar, I like your style, and I hope there are millions more who think as you do.

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I hope there are millions more who think as you do.

Me too...I'm getting tired of watching people get taken down one by one.

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Apparently, the Obama campaign is attempting to thwart a multitude of Democrat primaries.

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Obama tries to cancel another primary vote (Michigan) to avoid a ballot challenge, now 4th state to cancel Dem primary

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Obama State Ballot Challenge 2012 and citizen patriot ballot challengers have Obama and his operatives on the run from yet another state primary vote.. this time it is Michigan. There may be an opportunity to challenge Obama on the ballot there with new laws that were put into place last fall.

LANSING — Let the political games begin.

Michigan Democratic Party Chair Mark Brewer claimed Thursday the Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson is engaging in “partisan mischief” by placing President Obama on the state’s Feb. 28 primary ballot.

“It’s caused confusion out there,” Brewer said at a press conference. “It’s completely unnecessary. She knew, she had been repeatedly told that democrats are not participating in this process, but nonetheless, she put Barack Obama’s name on the ballot.”

Why do the dems not want Obama on that ballot? They plan to hold their own caucuses May 5, and, under party rules, voters can’t participate in both a primary and a caucus.

“This has caused enormous confusion and concern among democratic voters throughout Michigan,” Brewer said.

Sec. Johnson wasn’t available Thursday for comment, but her spokesman calls this a non-issue. Those at the Michigan Republican Party agree.

“I think that Mark Brewer is just misinformed,” said communications director Matt Frendewey. “If he were to have his way, it would be a closed, smoke-filled room that would make the choice for who would be the next leader of the free world.”

Frendewey contended a new statute, passed this fall, basically requires the secretary of state to put any well-known candidate on the ballot.

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/obama-tr....


First of all, this process is not new - it's not being done here in Michigan just because of Obama's questionable eligibility. Secondly, why the hell would the Obama campaign try to stop a normal process?! Whatever you think or don't think about his natural born citizenship, this is just freaking suspicious.

Oh, and there is a national movement to push states into doing this. The idea is to at least force him now to provide the required evidence of his eligibility to be on the ballot. http://obamaballotchallenge.com/ And again, there's nothing unusual about the process. Up until 2008, it was just boilerplate proforma procedure for anyone wanting to appear on the ballot for POTUS.

And for those of you who still can't understand the difference between 'citizen' and 'natural born citizen' - it is NOT merely semantics - the definition is a matter of established SCOTUS opinion. Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/minor-v-....
SCOTUS in Re: Minor wrote..
The Court established her [Mrs. Minor] citizenship by definining the “class” of “natural-born citizens” as those born in the US to parents who were citizens.
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I have tried to verify this and have come away still unconvinced
as to it's veracity. There is a .jpg image on Orly Taitz website dated
Jan 16, 2012 showing a copy of a subpeona to Loretta Fuddy,
Director of Health, Hawaii.

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/u....

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/14/....

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UPDATE – JUDGE SUBPOENAS OBAMA AND MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS
January 14, 2012 by Volubrjotr
JUDGE SUBPOENAS OBAMA
UPDATE: Attorney Orly Taitz website is reporting that a Georgia Judge has issued a subpoena demanding Barack Obama appear in court January 26 AND produce his original long form birth certificate, passport records, collegeregistration records and more.
Dr. Orly Taitz, attorney for one of the plaintiffs in the Georgia eligibility cases working their way rapidly through the courts, posted a copy of what is reportedly a subpoena, issued by Judge Michael Malihi of Georgia.The subpoena demands that Barack Obama himself appear in court on January 26, and bring with him a laundry list of official documents that will prove or disprove his eligibility for office.The list is frankly a “birther’s” dream. Unlike previous cases, where only certain documents were requested or discussed, this subpoena issued by Judge Malihi includes every document that serious eligibility experts have been discussing from the beginning. The list requires Obama to produce each of the following:
Any and all certified birth records including a long form birth certificate.
Certified school/university registration records. Certified immigration/naturalization records.
Certified passport records
Redacted certified Social Security card applications for each of the aliases and other legal names used by Barack Obama, including but not limited to his legal surname when adopted by step-father Lolo Soetoro.
In addition, Judge Malihi has reportedly also subpoenaed Hawaii Health Department officials and commanded them to produce an original certified copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate.

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Hoh hoh hoh hoh hoh......

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Kyla - Taitz supoenaed Fuddy months and months ago - but Fuddy at first ignored it. Then when a date was scheduled for Taitz to inspect the supoenaed documents (with Court bailiff in tow), Fuddy didn't show. I think there was a Show Cause as well and now apparently, the Judge is at the end of his rope. I do believe there are now multiple legitimate subpoenas requiring Fuddy to present the original long-form BC.

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Judges DO NOT like being given the finger.

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well then he better start figuring out what he's going to do when (not if) he gets the finger because you know its coming.
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Kylafoon, thanks for the link, but it is very hard to take a news organization seriously when they print this picture as news:


http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2012/0....

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/01/15/....
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http://www.art2superpac.com/georgiaballo....

looks like they're saying he still needs to show up.
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Yep. His motion to quash was killed.

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so whats going to happen when he gives the Judge the finger?
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I guess we'll find out!

I would assume the next thing would be a default judgment which means he's off the ballot. He would then have to appeal.

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if he got pulled from the GA ballot because he didnt want to show up and show his records it would make some waves and grab some attention
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Southern Fulton County gonna be*****ed...

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apparently CA is getting on the bandwagon as well

I received am email:

Breaking: CA Voters, including Presidential Candidate, Challenge Obama on California Ballot

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/breaking....

can't vouch for the site but it sounds familiar

You know — if the courts are able to show that any of the Birther stuff is true


the media will be smiley



then they will smiley

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I won!!! I won!!! I won!!! Judge Malihi ruled in my favor. Obama’s motion to quash my subpoena is denied! He has to appear at trial and present all the documents that I demanded to produce in my subpoena!
Posted on | January 20, 2012


http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

Call her what you want. Few have her tenacity.

It appears that Georgia Judge Malihi is at least willing
to hear her plea.

And uhhh, BHO is req'd to show in person...

Now that, I believe, ain't gonna happen.


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Does a motion to compel have to be granted before failure to appear results in contempt, or would ignoring the ruling denying the motion to quash carry the same penalty?
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Vegasradar: And the vast majority of the population will smiley

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As Karl has said before "the courts move slowly at times BUT they do move"...

smiley

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Tally: The judge CAN hold someone in contempt from the bench. They rarely do without a show-cause hearing, but they can.

But in this case it doesn't matter. If you intentionally fail to produce the other side can immediately turn around and file a motion for a summary judgment and often will get it.

I suspect that's exactly what Obama and his counsel is expecting and they intend to absorb that and then try to get a stay and cert on appeal. It's a dangerous strategy because if the appeals court follows the law, and they're more likely to than a trial court, they can only review what actually happened in the lower court -- that is, you can't re-try the case.

So in this case his claim on appeal would rest on reversible error in the judgment (e.g. that he doesn't have to prove eligibility.) I don't like those odds and wouldn't take that dice roll myself -- unless I knew that if I produced the documents something exclusionary was in there (e.g. a claim of foreign student aid while in college.)

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BTW DO NOT go to Orly's web site. My virus scanner pops a warning on it. I don't know if she's aware of it or not, but I wouldn't be browsing there...

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