Bernanke Threatens Congress (Again)
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Posted 2011-06-14 15:11
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Bernanke Threatens Congress (Again)
 

Gee, big surprise...

At about 9 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), the federal budget deficit has widened appreciably since the onset of the recent recession in December 2007. The exceptional increase in the deficit has mostly reflected the automatic cyclical response of revenues and spending to a weak economy as well as the fiscal actions taken to ease the recession and aid the recovery.

Except that the "automatic cyclical response" never went away after 2003.  Then it was compounded.  So when does it go away Ben?

Of even greater concern is that longer-run projections that extrapolate current policies and make plausible assumptions about the future evolution of the economy show the structural budget gap increasing significantly further over time. For example, under the alternative fiscal scenario developed by the Congressional Budget Office, which assumes most current policies are extended, the deficit is projected to be about 6-1/2 percent of GDP in 2020 and almost 13 percent of GDP in 2030.

Remember that the CBO said we'd have no Federal Debt in 2010 (in 1999.)  How'd that work out?  Do you think they're just a wee bit optimistic?

One reason the debt is projected to increase so quickly is that the larger the debt outstanding, the greater the budgetary cost of making the required interest payments. This dynamic is clearly unsustainable.

Right.  This means you have to run a primary surplus to stop that dynamic from taking hold.  There is no other means to do it, and the longer you wait to do it, the worse the cutting is that has to take place to get there, because you're starting from a larger baseline both on deficits and accumulated debt.

Perhaps the most important thing for people to understand about the federal budget is that maintaining the status quo is not an option. Creditors will not lend to a government whose debt, relative to national income, is rising without limit; so, one way or the other, fiscal adjustments sufficient to stabilize the federal budget must occur at some point. These adjustments could take place through a careful and deliberative process that weighs priorities and gives individuals and firms adequate time to adjust to changes in government programs and tax policies. Or the needed fiscal adjustments could come as a rapid and much more painful response to a looming or actual fiscal crisis in an environment of rising interest rates, collapsing confidence and asset values, and a slowing economy. The choice is ours to make.

The choice was ours to make in 2007.  Bernanke, Paulson and others argued for more spending "now" and cuts "never."  We now have four years into this, with three of them running deficits over 10% of GDP.  Remove that deficit and GDP contracts by at least 10%.  Fail to remove it and eventually you reach that point where the choices are made for you.

Time is running out to make the choices on our own.

The primary long-term goal for federal budget policy must be achieving fiscal sustainability. A straightforward way to define fiscal sustainability is as a situation in which the ratio of federal debt to national income is stable or moving down over the longer term. This goal can be attained by bringing spending, excluding interest payments, roughly in line with revenues, or in other words, by approximately balancing the primary budget. Given the sharp run-up in debt over the past few years, it would be reasonable to plan for a period of primary budget surpluses, which would serve eventually to bring the ratio of debt to national income back toward pre-recession levels.

My God, he said it.

That's a first.

Fiscal sustainability is a long-run concept. Achieving fiscal sustainability, therefore, requires a long-run plan, one that reduces deficits over an extended period and that, to the fullest extent possible, is credible, practical, and enforceable. In current circumstances, an advantage of taking a longer-term perspective in forming concrete plans for fiscal consolidation is that policymakers can avoid a sudden fiscal contraction that might put the still-fragile recovery at risk.

No.  The longer you wait to do it the harder it gets, and at least as importantly the more-addicted the people (and businesses) get to the "free ****" game that has been run.  When you run 12% of GDP in deficits you're basically preventing the recognition of and adjustment that should come from an economic depression.

We've been doing it for three years straight.

Recently, negotiations over our long-run fiscal policies have become tied to the issue of raising the statutory limit for federal debt. I fully understand the desire to use the debt limit deadline to force some necessary and difficult fiscal policy adjustments, but the debt limit is the wrong tool for that important job. Failing to raise the debt ceiling in a timely way would be self-defeating if the objective is to chart a course toward a better fiscal situation for our nation.

Sorry, but I disagree.

The "FSA" (Free **** Army) will not stop demanding their free ****, and they vote for it.  It is therefore necessary, and unavoidable, that the Legislators and Executive be willing to "fall on their political swords" to stop this cycle now, because there is no evidence that it will ever be acceptable to the people to do it "tomorrow."

We thus are choosing between doing it now or not doing it at all.  The former is bad, the latter disastrous.

There is no choice folks.  Bernanke wants you to believe in candy-crapping unicorns that will somehow make the decisions that must be taken palatable tomorrow when they are not today.

But politics doesn't work that way.  When you have screaming women and children on one side and screaming Seniors on the other, you either put your foot down and say "No!", knowing full well it is likely to cost you your job, or you say "yes, we'll deal with it tomorrow" knowing you will deal with it never.

The latter choice is disastrous because for each day we delay in consolidating the budget, reducing spending to meet revenues, we increase the total amount of economic harm the economy and the people in this nation must absorb.  The time to do this was in 2007 when we should have forced all the banks into bankruptcy and cleared the property market.  We would have had a horrific Depression but by now it would be over and Americans would be able to buy homes again, our economy would be recovering, and the big problems we have would have been addressed.

Instead we kicked the can and added more than $4.5 trillion in debt to the problem - a 40% increase in just three years from where we were in 2007.

We cannot continue on this road - not even for another month. 

The insanity must stop right now.

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Gen wrote..
We cannot continue on this road - not even for another month.


Sorry, it can and will continue for many more months, in all probability.

I don't mean to rag on the Republicans last night, but I didn't hear anyone saying we need to stop the insanity and curb FSA hand-outs and "entitlements".

Not a one.

Yes, it needs to stop. But the current crop of politicians, by and large, don't have the fortitude to step up and do the right thing. They are afraid of the FSA voters... No way Democrats are going to***** off the entitlement classes of welfare leech****s and I don't think Republicans are going to alienate the seniors.

No, this is going to end in a bad way.

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We cannot continue on this road - not even for another month.

They're quite good at kicking the can...I'm betting they'll last for many more months, if not years.

Any particular reason you've put a month time limit on it? Am I missing something?
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I've outlined plenty of them. Be prepared or be sorry.

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typo- "Fail to remove it and eventually you read that point where the choices are made for you."

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More tanks in the streets ****. Hello Benocide... your damn monetizing of the federal debt has done nothing for the real economy. It has propped up the Market under stupidly light volume. The rest of us are being crippled by your actions so I say let it ****ing collapse.
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Chairistan wrote..
...the debt limit is the wrong tool for that important job.


OK *******, so what precisely is the right tool? Eh, jackwagon?

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The good points Bernanke made were only small concessions in order to make the real point of his speech: telling Congress to raise the debt ceiling.

He knew if he only demanded the debt ceiling raise, he would come off sounding shrill or churlish, like Timmy's weekly threats. So instead, the Bernank told us a bunch of stuff we already know -- that the current rate of debt is unsustainable.
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These adjustments could take place through a careful and deliberative process that weighs priorities and gives individuals and firms adequate time to adjust to changes in government programs and tax policies. Or the needed fiscal adjustments could come as a rapid and much more painful response to a looming or actual fiscal crisis in an environment of rising interest rates, collapsing confidence and asset values, and a slowing economy. The choice is ours to make.
As far as I'm concerned, he just gave Congress a loophole there. Instead of saying the deficits must be dealt with immediately, he gave them a way out by saying it could be a "careful and deliberative process that weighs priorties." In other words, medium-term, which is the same as "never." Congress as a group doesn't have the guts to set priorities, because it*****es off too many members of the FSA, so it will never deal with the debt problem unless forced from within (holding the debt ceiling hostage) or without (bond market dislocation).

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Personally, I'm prepared but I think we are going to have a couple years before it goes boom. When it happens though it going to go quick (like capsizing a boat), stable until its not anymore.

They need to roll back all the Bush tax cuts, higher taxes on the ultra rich with targeted tax cuts for investment in US production and manufacturing, up the SS age 70, cut medicare programs that are nice but not necessary, legalize and tax weed, restructure the military.

It's really not that difficult, cut spending by 1/3, debt finance 1/3 and higher taxes for 1/3. Do it again the following year, 1/3, 1/3 and 1/3 and your down to a 150-200B deficit, then cut 1/2 and finance 1/2 then just cut to 5% primary surplus, done.

Invest any SS surplus in other countries debt and markets to eliminate the slush fund dynamics.

BTW-GDP is a dumb measure of a standard of living, gets one in to more trouble then it's worth. If GDP contracts and the standard of living goes up -who really cares (except bankers as they need to be paid back with future dollars)

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We have to spend more money so we don't go broke. Biden
We have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it. Pelosi
We have to raise the debt ceiling and borrow more money to get our deficit spending under control. Bernanke

Anyone besides me see a logical thinking disability in this administration?

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It's Judgment Day, and Bernanke wants to act like he's got religion all of a sudden. On Judgment Day it's too late, chump.

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I am getting to the point where I just don't care anymore.
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Lord,

Getting? I've been there. I'm just bracing for impact...

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This is where the banksters tell the scumbags (politicians) what to do.

Been there, done that. There's not a single politician with any ****ing ballz to make the tough decisions.

So the debt ceiling will be raised.

Ben will print.

The greenback will become the brownback (asswipe).

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Yes, the budget needs to be brought in line with revenues, but where should the cuts begin to bring this about. Everyone has their sacred cows which they believe should remain in tact. For Seniors it's Medicare and Social Security. Employed workers it's lower taxes and higher wages. etc. It is obvious that everyone can't have it their way. Our economy simply cannot provide a job for every person that wants or needs one. I collect social security, because my prior employer AT&T has been using early retirement to get rid of elderly employees. I would much rather be working, but I could see the handwriting on the wall and retired early. That's my story. Everyone else has theirs as well. Karl thinks he has the answers, all though he has some sound arguments, we don't really know what he would do if he were actually in a position to do something about it. And would his solutions work any better? I don't have the answer. Like Winston Churchill once said, everyone feeds the alligator hoping that he will eat him last. That's how I see the present situation. Every persons solution is the one that will hurt him the least and benefit him the most.
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Anyone ever read "Tappan on Survival"? It is interesting how everything he wrote in the first chapter regarding the U.S. in 1980 could have been written about the U.S. in 2007. He, and many others, were predicting an impending economic collapse which never happened. It was just papered over.

I see the Fed replaying the 1980's debt crisis playbook; however, the U.S. debt situation is considerably worse than the 1980's. I think Congress' response to the debt ceiling will be indicative of how things proceed from here.
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Richardebel, I can name a half dozen other guys in the same boat - laid off well before the official early retirement age of 62.

People need to realize that even if they do somehow get out of college and get a "good" corporate job, it is unlikely to carry them through to a decent retirement. Somewhere in their fifties their earning power takes a nose-dive. People need to plan accordingly.

This is another long term deflationary force - trying to get to financial independence 10 years earlier limits what one can spend on housing and trinkets during ones foreshortened career.

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Karl's comment is something that every politician everywhere should read and I'll repeat it here. This is my first post but I was so struck with your words in their simplicity and implications that I wanted to quote them. I do not have a great deal of hope that our political class will heed them but for me its the crux of the matter at hand.

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We would have had a horrific Depression but by now it would be over and Americans would be able to buy homes again, our economy would be recovering, and the big problems we have would have been addressed.

Instead we kicked the can and added more than $4.5 trillion in debt to the problem - a 40% increase in just three years from where we were in 2007.

We cannot continue on this road - not even for another month.

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Templar, the State of Arizona Republicans said no to 15 more weeks of unemployment benefits this week. They have had enough. We will see if they cave as the Govn'r called for a special session and they told her and the Dems to stick it. Hope this is the start of cutting off the free ****. They did cut the medicaid for 200k people at the beginning of the year and another 100k starting in July. I think they are starting to get it in our state. Time for everyone to start carrying there own water.

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Gen,

Any reason you think [****fan] is within a month, or were you just spitballing?

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More Insanity for $100 Alex.
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Any reason you think smiley is within a month, or were you just spitballing?


QE2 ends this month?
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He's not the only one I read regularly saying that.

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Bernanke told a bit of TRUTH???

Oh ****!! Now I am scared!!

And my chickens have not started laying yet!!!
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