How To Destroy An Administration's Credibility
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Posted 2011-05-08 07:53
by Karl Denninger
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How To Destroy An Administration's Credibility
 

First, refuse to release an actual birth certificate when you're challenged on your bona-fides to be President during the original campaign.  Then, when pressed, release one that is heavily compressed and bears no relationship to an actual simple scan of a piece of paper, leaving plenty of doubt about exactly how it came to be.  Once you've done this, be extraordinarily "Presidential" and take cheap shots at a potential political opponent during a Press dinner in a scene more reminiscent of South Park than that befitting a President of The United States.

Next, make lots of noise about how you're not going to Washington to pander to banksters.  As soon as you're elected, however, make sure you appoint the man who runs the NY Fed to be your Treasury Secretary.

Tell the public you're going to cut the budget deficit in half within your first term during the campaign, fully-aware that we're headed into the worst recession in decades at the time.  As soon as you get in office, nearly triple the deficit spending of your predecessor instead.

Campaign on the horrors of the drug war and the need to stop criminals from shooting people in Mexico in furtherance of this activity.  Once in office set up "Project Gunwalker" and "Fast and Furious" allowing more than 1,000 illegally-purchased firearms to be transported to Mexico, some of which are then used to shoot both Americans and Mexicans.  Oh, and to make sure the Mexican drug lords can pay for those guns allow a major US bank to launder nearly $400 billion dollars of Mexican drug money and get off with a tiny little fine instead of sending everyone involved in that scam to prison and revoking the bank's charter.

Tell the public you are being elected their President to stand and fight for the "little people." Once in office, however, allow more than 150,000 perjured affidavits to be filed in furtherance of stealing the common man's home, and instead of directing your Justice Department to empanel a grand jury and indict everyone involved work behind the scenes on a sweetheart deal where these very same firms promise - very nicely - not to do it again.

In keeping with the same premise, demand and pass not one but two 2,000 page monstrosities of bills, one attempting to force everyone in the country to buy a thing they may not want to (Health Insurance) and the other claiming to fix "too big to fail" while doing nothing of the sort, refusing to force the unregulated credit default swap and other derivative markets to come under margin supervision and public exchange posting of pricing and spreads.  When challenged on the cost-savings of your health reform bill wave your hands, scream and shout - right up until you're caught double-counting alleged savings and your HHS Secretary is forced to admit you did it in a Congressional hearing.

Advocate and get passed a bill called "Cash for Clunkers" that is claimed to be intended to help the auto industry and middle-class America.  Ignore the fact that it also caused a huge number of affordable cars and their most-valuable parts to be intentionally destroyed, thereby dramatically increasing the cost of acquiring basic transportation for those who are in the lower economic strata.

Then, after you've done all this, claim to have killed Bin Laden in a SEAL raid, trumpeting the best and finest military units that the world has ever known.  Promise to release pictures proving that the most-hunted and wanted man in the history of the United States - the mastermind behind blowing up three buildings with airplanes and attempting to hit a forth - has expired at America's hand.  We're shown a picture of a rapt group of military brass and the President himself allegedly watching helmet cameras as the assault takes place, having bravely given the order to "go" on what could have turned into another Blackhawk Down.  But as the days wear on the story of a brave combat unit going into a firefight with a mighty terrorist and his minions who shoot at our troops in their heavily-fortified mansion until they draw their last breath begins to crumble.

First, the firefight wasn't so massive.  Indeed, we later discover that there was no shooting in the main building at all - that there was only one small skirmish at the guest house.  From that point forward nobody fired on our guys at all.

The story of Osama using women as human shields falls apart with equal rapidity.  It turns out that he shoved a woman who is allegedly his wife out of the way - and she took a round in the leg in the process.

It then develops that the White House didn't have real-time communication during the raid, despite leading everyone to believe they did.

Next, we learn that Osama didn't have a weapon within his grasp when he was shot and killed.  He didn't die trying to repel the assault.  He just died.  In fact, the narrative changes to him "dying as a coward."  Was he trying to reach for a weapon?  There were allegedly two in the room with him.  We'll never know for sure.  Nonetheless, unless he got his fingers on one, he couldn't have shot anyone with an empty hand.

To top it all off, the body of the alleged Osama Bin Laden was then, as the President said, treated with the respect due a Muslim but, in his words, carted off to the Carl Vinson and tossed off the fantail into the sea. The people I've spoken with who are familiar with Muslim burial customs have made clear that except in extreme circumstances burial at sea is not acceptable in any way.  Of course my personal view is that he should have been wrapped in bacon and trolled on a line as shark-bait behind the ship, mostly as an object lesson to anyone who might try to emulate him, seeing as radical Muslims would view such a demise as a one-way immediate and permanent trip to Hell.  I'm clearly in the minority on this point, but I view a dead man as just a corpse, and if we can get deterrent value from him after he's expired it should be seriously considered.

Finally, despite this all happening within a few hours' time a positive DNA match was obtained prior to the original press conference, proving that it was Osama.  Plausible?  Maybe - one-hour testing has been demonstrated.  If anyone has it in field-usable form, our military probably does.  And if that's not enough we were promised that photograph so we could all see that indeed Osama is dead - a photograph that has now been claimed to be withheld so we don't "spike the football" (in the President's words) - never mind that the same sort of murderous bastards that blew up our buildings thought nothing of publishing a video of them sawing off Nick Berg's head.

I have no doubt that the raid took place, and I have no particular reason to doubt that Osama met his maker last weekend.  After all, there were plenty of witnesses in Pakistan who have gone on the air to testify that a raid did take place, never mind the fact that we seem to have broken one of our rather-secret helicopters in the process.  Our SEALs performed admirably - but then again, that's who they are and what they do.  I've said it before and will again - if any of the team is ever in this area, the beer is on me.

I'm also reasonably certain Bin Laden burning in Hell right now.

Will the conspiracy-minded folks be satisfied at this point?  No.  But that lack of satisfaction is Obama's responsibility, and nobody else's.  That we shot some people in that compound is without question.  That we lost a chopper doing it is also without question.  There are those who believe Bin Laden has been dead for a long time; after all he was rumored to have end-state renal failure and it's damn hard to undergo dialysis in a cave somewhere.

That this Administration can't get its story straight should not be a surprise.  Virtually every other word that has passed Obama's lips since he was elected has been proved to be a bald-faced and puerile lie. The problem with lying is that you have to keep track of all the bull**** you spew lest you contradict yourself and then the gig is up.

There are more questions than answers that have come out of this raid, and answers to those questions are being dodged.  How, for example, is it that Osama lives in relative comfort right under the Pakistani equivalent of West Point without detection?  Did we really waterboard the guy who led us to the courier?  Did Obama order and go ahead with that waterboarding after selling America on him as a President in no small part by promising never to use that sort of technique?  Was Bin Laden really living in Pakistan in that mansion for several years?  Who are these Pakistanis anyway - are they our friends or are they really harboring not only Bin Laden but the Taliban generally, while we are handing them billions of dollars in "assistance"?  Wouldn't it be "delicious" if we were directly and indirectly funding the very bastards who are trying to kill us?

Where's the chopper remnants?  Why haven't we gotten the wreckage back?  If the Pakistanis are our friends in trying to fight terrorism, what's the problem with returning our nation's property?  How sure are we that all the Pakistani nuclear weapons (they are believed to have over 100 of them) are all secure and accounted for - and will stay that way?  Oh, and what the hell do we intend to do about all that?  Wait for a mushroom cloud over an American city?  These are questions we as Americans should be demanding from our leadership - right here, right now, today.

Should we, as Americans, be confident in our leaders?  I'm quite confident that whatever mission our men and women in uniform are given, they'll execute it.  The SEALs proved that once again last weekend.  But that our military can and does faithfully execute orders doesn't make the orders they're given, the rules of engagement and the missions handed out intelligent.  If the man in the left seat of our nation is a bumbling narcissistic idiot, we're in trouble.

Exactly who is Barack Obama, and why should anyone - in this nation or otherwise, given his proved record of lies and intentional butt*****s that have been handed out on a serial basis to the American people - take him and the Administration in general seriously?

We're well past the point where that question should be asked in public.

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Icanhasbailout
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The other danger about being a pathological liar is that if you ever do tell the truth, no one will believe it - Boy Who Cried "Wolf" syndrome.

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Good questions and good Ticker for pointing out the arrogance and constants lies being told to the American people.

I also believe that Osama is deader than a doornail -- but why must me have to wade through the obviously deliberate propaganda and lies constantly.

I have the feeling that the plan is to tell so many lies and so much propaganda that we get so used to it, that we no longer even care or question what the government and politicians are telling us. Sad.

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Very good ticker Gen! I would argue that they never really had any credibility to begin with, but what little they might have had has been wiped out by incompetence. 20 years ago most of these people would be standing tall before the man...now they are the man and have captured our country while everyone seems to sit back and lap it up like cold beer.

What bothers me the most is too much ignorance in the population who put them there in the first place and they don't even want to talk about it, much less do anything about it.

That's why I am turning my back on my country and retreating to a place as far away as feasibly possible without actually leaving the country. Ya'll can live side by side with this garbage. I choose not to. It makes me ill just to drive in traffic anymore knowing a bunch of ****tards around me helped cause this mess and allow it to continue unabated as long as they don't cut off tv or the internet. I literally want to puke.

Yes I'm completely disgusted with my fellow citizens. I'm doing the only thing I can do at this point. Distance myself as far away as possible from these idiots and do my own thing. It's for my health as much as anything else.

Thanks for everything you do Gen.

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I have the feeling that the plan is to tell so many lies and so much propaganda that we get so used to it, that we no longer even care or question what the government and politicians are telling us.



Many are, and have been, at this point for some time now.

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I would bet he takes unlimited Mulligans on the golf course, carries 20 clubs in his bag, starts talking when his opponent is on his/her backswing teeing off, asks for (and gets) 12' "gimme" putts, kicks his ball out of the rough onto the fairway when no one's looking, doesn't repair ball marks on the green, and uses a pencil with eraser on his scorecard.

You can always tell the character of a man/woman by how he/she plays golf.

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I'm no conspiracy theorist, but have been wondering what the fallback exit plan was with one chopper inoperable.

From Wikipedia re the Blackhawks capabilities:
"It can carry 11 troops with equipment, lift 2,600 lb (1,170 kg) of cargo internally"

I believe I read that the SEAL team had 25 members. Add the 2 pilots of the other chopper and OBL's body and you a total of 30 on board the remaining chopper. Is that even possible?

Certainly we have not heard the whole story.
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Nothing in the Constitution gives the President (or ANY other representative of the people) the authority to lie to the people they represent. Obama is NOT the legitimate President and instead is an illegal occupier of the White House who has grossly violated his oath of office. Additionally, by his actions, he has done the office he holds, possibly irreparable harm.

What will we the people do about it?

Nothing as always...send letters and faxes and hope the next guy running for that office isn't as corrupt as this one. What was it Einstein said about performing the same action and hoping for a different result?

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madashel wrote..
That's why I am turning my back on my country and retreating to a place as far away as feasibly possible without actually leaving the country. Ya'll can live side by side with this garbage. I choose not to. It makes me ill just to drive in traffic anymore knowing a bunch of ****tards around me helped cause this mess and allow it to continue unabated as long as they don't cut off tv or the internet. I literally want to puke.

This.

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People with Narcissistic Personality disorder are, by definition, pathological liars.

And they don't care if you know. The act of lying is rewarding in itself for them.

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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we are heading at breakneck speed to this...

http://www.arewelivinginthelastdays.com/....

There is no other explanation for everything that is occurring, and no matter what we do it WILL happen. We are closer now then ever before in history. I am not a holy roller, but if you haven't accepted Jesus into your life, I suggest you do it. I plan on watching from Heaven when SHTF and it will..



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Ddddaaaaaamn KD.

Denninger raises his gloves. The crowd roars. Barack is still on the mat does not appear to be moving. There is quite a large amount of blood gushing from what appears to be a badly broken nose. Medics are rushing to his side. ... And .....we have a whistle from the refs. Yes! They are calling the fight! KO by Denninger in the fourth round, after what can only be described as a full frontal assault on Obama, and a final punch that sent him reeling. We ...have... a championnnnnn! The title goes tooooo.... Denninger!




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"Next, make lots of noise about how you're not going to Washington to pander to banksters. As soon as you're elected, however, make sure you appoint the man who runs the NY Fed to be your Treasury Secretary....Tell the public you're going to cut the budget deficit in half within your first term during the campaign, fully-aware that we're headed into the worst recession in decades at the time. As soon as you get in office, nearly triple the deficit spending of your predecessor instead"

Credibility never really existed as we headed into this recession without a single "leader" in place on Barry's team with ANY corporate background or experience... Timmy's appointment was a MONSTER red flag, but....

... to me it's clear, this pathetic circus of an "Administration" and all around it ARE enemies of the US... the FACTS KD lists in this thread are evidence enough, but a non-relevant Judiciary branch and American Idol and DWTS hypnotism for the masses means there's, unfortunately, only one way to stop this trainwreck.....

GREAT post KD... but outside of MT... SADLY... who's listening.....and how to you wake America up BEFORE it's past the point of being America?????...

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BEFORE it's past the point of being America?????...

BEFORE?!

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Liars just Lie. It's what they do. They literally cannot complete two sentences without telling at least one lie. For people that don't lie or do so only under exceptional duress, this is very hard to grasp & understand.

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Our governments have been lying to us for years and the general public laps it up without question. Wether it is weapons of mass destruction or the fearless rescuing of a good looking blonde women soldier from an Iraqi hospital to the inflation or unemployment rate.
When we had the infamous children overboard saga here many years ago I found it hard to believe that people who had fled war torn country's with their children would throw them overboard to save themselves. I was the only one at my work that said something stank about this as being a father I would gladly give my life to save my daughters. The truth finally came out but I am still amazed that the general population run with what they were told without question.
The really sad part to me is the media is so controlled now that the truth never comes out. To call themselves journalists is an insult.
It is the same now in all western countries and I personally feel it is a downfall to us all. How can we complain about corrupt nations when we have become ones ourselves.
P.S My gut feeling is someone finally put their hand up for the reward money on Osama, not we tortured someone for the information.
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After Pentagon Hollywood stunts like Pat Tillman story or Jessica Lynch story one would think that they would come up with a slightly more consistent scenario for killing Osama Bin Laden. After all, that is supposed to be a modern epic.
They didn’t. One could speculate why not: due to American ruling class outer disrespect for gullible American public or due to the fact that American ruling class is a bunch of utterly crazy morons. (I personally favor the latter).
Who is Barak Obama? Who the hell knows? Without any real court proceedings we will never find out. All attempts to bring up his Constitutional eligibility in courts are blocked, no one succeeded so far.
What I do know about Barak Obama that he’s been extremely successful in silencing almost all anti-war opposition in United States and turned all those opposing monsteros foreign policy during Bush regime into war mongers.
So that narcissistic bubbling idiot of a president could sign into action any crazy military adventure passed to him by his handlers. And remember, on top of all that he is MOST LIKELY blackmailable.
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Right on Karl.

Obozo is a ****ing fake. While Dick Nixon went down saying he was not a crook, the only option left for this corrupt piece of **** is to exit as, "I'm not a bankster stooge"

Obama's administration appears in this way as a Weimar republic. Although the social democrats were in power during the Weimar republic of Germany in the 1920s and early 1930s, they did not pursue a leftist response to the crisis, but rather side-lined the militant trade unions, communists and socialists, and progressively pandered to capital and the right before turning over power to the Nazis in 1933.

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opi....


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Candidate Obama called for withdrawal of troops from Iraq to be completed by the end of 2008!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/09/1....

Then there's the promise to close Guantanamo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQXZoM__v....

His promise to scrap the Patriot Act:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari....

And on and on.
Perhaps these are not so much examples of his "lies" but of his incredible lack of experience and his naievete when he made them?

Genesis wrote..
....my personal view is that he (Bin Laden) should have been wrapped in bacon and trolled on a line as shark-bait behind the ship

The "Bin Laden" cocktail: two shots and a splash of salt water.
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The only person to lose credibility at that dinner was Trump (did he ever have any?) - way to show you have no sense of humour. Meanwhile Obama continues to play the long game while the right play into his hands..
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I don't think any of this even matter any more. Too many people financially depend on the system staying the way it is.

People will continue to vote for someone who promises them the most benefits. The US is starting to look like a third world country. The people know the system is corrupt but are kept quiet with free bread.
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I mentioned Obama's failings in a recent Facebook post and I was pretty shocked at the level of denial shown by some of my liberal friends. Asking the question "Isn't Obama exactly the same as Bush only to a higher degree" caused such a ruckus I thought my computer would explode. Instead of calmly talking about the issues I was called a racist, a fascist and a birther and I heard the overused and irrelevant "but he inherited all these problems when he took office". When I pointed out that Obama has accomplished exactly nothing to date I was told "It's only been 2 1/2 years, you have to give him a chance."

I literally don't know what to think about people who can't rationally discuss a subject of this importance. It blows my mind...
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Lying has become so general, at all levels, that it's become a national psychosis. When I see and "Out of Order" sign on a bathroom door, I assume it is a lie. It's almost like words--at least the ones intended for public consumption--have become meaningless. For example, I was amused recently to hear that the high school is now calling Study Hall, "Seminar."

When the level of lying gets to this point, you're...uh...not in Kansas anymore, Toto. You're dealing with a very advanced and very general form of mental illness.

But maybe there's no call to give way to some kind of deep depression and foreboding about this. After all, this is what most of human history looks like: Monty Python's "Quest for the Holy Grail."


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Should we, as Americans, be confident in our leaders?


Are you serious?
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I mentioned Obama's failings in a recent Facebook post and I was pretty shocked at the level of denial shown by some of my liberal friends. Asking the question "Isn't Obama exactly the same as Bush only to a higher degree" caused such a ruckus I thought my computer would explode. Instead of calmly talking about the issues I was called a racist, a fascist and a birther and I heard the overused and irrelevant "but he inherited all these problems when he took office". When I pointed out that Obama has accomplished exactly nothing to date I was told "It's only been 2 1/2 years, you have to give him a chance."


I was recently told by an ultra leftist friend that Obama has to support all of Bush's policies and then some, otherwise the Republicans would "get him".

Yet they still support him. It is better to have a total sellout Democrat that is WORSE than Bush FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE than it is to vote for a NON-SELLOUT lefty like Nader.

Oh, yeah. Nader is STILL an *******.
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