The Great Religion Of Peace Issues Another Edict
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Posted 2010-12-27 16:17
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The Great Religion Of Peace Issues Another Edict
 

"Embrace Islam or die."

MOGADISHU, Somalia -- A leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency threatened to attack America during a speech broadcast Monday.

"We tell the American President Barack Obama to embrace Islam before we come to his country," said Fuad Mohamed "Shongole" Qalaf.

What part of The First Amendment didn't you read?

Oh yeah, I forgot: You don't know how to read.

In our nation, which you don't seem to respect, you have the right to worship as you wish. That includes not worshiping at all.  If you wish to bay to the Moon when it is full, you may.  If you wish to file into a Baptist Church and hear bombastic speeches from The Bible about how gays are all going to burn in Hell forever, you may.  If you attend a Synagogue and invoke Yahweh, you may.  If you wish to attend a Catholic Mass and take Holy Communion, you may.  If you wish to pray several times a day on a mat facing Mecca, you may.  And if you wish to hold a service for Satan, you may.

It's called Freedom of Religion and it is expressly guaranteed in our national founding documents.  I have no right to interfere with your choice of religious observance (including none at all), and you have no right to interfere with mine.

Pronouncements otherwise in the form of threats - "do it our way or else" should be taken as open declarations of war and responded to in kind, since our Constitution forbids what you demand.  It is therefore incumbent upon us to deal with that declaration in the only way that it can be dealt with, which is to consider your "organization" as one that is at war with The United States. 

In short, let me respond as one American who has read The Constitution to your outrageous demand and open Declaration of War:

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Kylafoon
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Islam is a perverted, demented cult.
Their "prophet" Mohammed was a lying, thieving,
murdering war monger, and pedophile.

Muslims have earned no place in humanity.

Other than that, I'm sure they're a fine people...

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I imagine that "a leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency" speaks for Islam about as much as Fred Phelps speaks for Christianity.
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sticks and stones

Being from NJ, my state constitution guarantees the right to speak freely. I care not what someone "says" - I only care what people "do"

Like a politician, never listed to what they say, just follow what they do or have done (oh, and also follow the money, always)
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Gosh, he's just being a good, devout and zealous Muslim! What's the problem?

Surely adherents of the religion of decapitation have the same right of free expression as any other religion.

And why shouldn't they?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/in-def....

"The absolute political sovereignty of Islam, across the entire expanse of the world, over every living human being, is demanded by all the authoritative sources of Islamic faith: the text of the eternal, irreformable, absolutely flawless and uncreated Qur'an; the burden of the sacred Hadiths that give the authoritative life of the last prophet of God; and the lifetime example (as depicted in these two sources) of that prophet who is the "excellent example" of perfect human conduct. Any variety of Islam that arises which renounces world supremacy, religious intolerance, the persecution of polytheists, the subjugation of Jews and Christians, the jizya, the oppressive marital laws and unequal sexual arrangements of Sharia would be heretical--as heretical as a variant of Christianity that renounced the divinity of Christ."

Not to worry. I am sure that throughout the land our schools are telling our future citizens and leaders about how Charles Martel stopped the Moslem onslaught at Tours in 722, about the popes fending off Saracen raids on Italy in the early middle ages, about the Battle of Lepanto in 1571, about John Sobieski at Vienna in 1683, etc.

Let's not lose our heads over Islam. I am sure they are nice people.
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Double that picture at the bottom for me will ya ?

Our super sensitive, idiotic PC nation has confused discrimination with obvious threats. Our Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not an act of terrorism disguised as a religion.

The Islam we see practiced daily is not a religion but rather a declaration of war and it should be acknowledged , and acted upon, as such.

**** that abomination Islam. ( not the real religion Islam )
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Well said Gen! F__k 'em all! Religions are an affront to God.
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I doubt that all Muslims take the Koran literally as to the majority of Christians don't interpret the Bible literally anymore.

As for the leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency making threats from a desolate and powerless place on the earth, the chances of him doing much to our country is close to nil.
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Fundamental, "true" Islam demands its followers to wage war on the entire world until "all religion is for Allah".

Not all (most) Muslims do not follow true Islam - some of those are akin to "jack" Christians who attend church every Christmas and Easter and do little to nothing else, and as such, would likely make perfectly good neighbors.

Islam claims that lying is moral, as long as it furthers the goal of literal Islamic world domination.

The Koran itself describes the principle of abrogation (new replaces the old), which is a problem because all the peaceful ("no compulsion in religion") writings came before the writings mandating war for global Islamic conquest.

"True" Islam is completely incompatible with any other religion or other way of life.

The best single-colume reference I've found that lays all this information out for analysis is the book 'Prophet of Doom', posted online in its entirety in several formats by its author at http://prophetofdoom.net
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Send a missile to this asshats house.
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What's really discouraging about this guy is he could very well owe his very life to the US government/taxpayer providing food to him when he was a fly covered boy of 10 being pictured on a CARE ad.

Big mistake every helping these international basket case nations as we only end up with lots of here and even more of them there. If you Google 'Somali' the terms that come up are 'war', terrorism, famine, welfare and ridiculous Islamic complaints such as the Minnesota ( somali) cab drivers who did not want
to take fares who had alcoholic beverages with them.
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Obama will take this opportunity to tell us more about Islam's benefits to Western Society. Watch. I fully expect a new press release from NASA in the next few weeks. His TSA head won't even use the word 'terrorism' in speeches.

http://www.millionface.com/l/behhead-tho....

The pictures of those signs in that article are not photo shopped. The sooner we stop calling Islam a 'religion' open Constitutional freedoms, the better off we will all be. It is not a religion, but a theocratic ideology designed to consume the world.

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THEOCRACY. A species of government which claims to be immediately directed by God.




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Idiots. We're just looking for an excuse to go to war.

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As for the leader of Somalia's Islamist insurgency making threats from a desolate and powerless place on the earth, the chances of him doing much to our country is close to nil.


Well, all it takes is a bit of C4 up his ass....and "Big Sis" will insist that the TSA hire 10,000 proctologists.

Get ready.



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Obama is weak on this issue and 'Islamic extremists' - another word the administration refuses to use - know it. Our dear president has a soft spot in his heart for Islam, as evidenced by his Muslim upbringing.

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But it's just one fanatic! Oh wait...

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Lies, all of it.
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So one lunatic in Somalia says something like "join us or die" and the whole of Islaam becomes one monolithic mass of crazies wanting to give their lives to kill us? We now need to kill this guy? Nonsense.

Saying the "Great Religion of Peace issues another edict" is bigoted.

What Americans would never say about Jews, or blacks, or Catholics, or women, they have no problem saying about muslims. They take a somalian equivalent to John Hagee and say this represents the whole religion. This is just some perverted bandwagon effect where people spout ignorance about Muslims because they think everyone approves of what they say.

Most of the people who read this blog are cynical to the max about government honesty and the rule of law, but seem to swallow the tripe about "muslims are bad" hook and sinker.

Muslims are no better, nor worse, than your average American white, middle class, financial geek.

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.. but seem to swallow the tripe about "muslims are bad" hook and sinker.


You, sir, need to study history.

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An "imam" (and no, I'm simply NOT gonna capitalize that word) is usually the only guy in the village who CAN read.

That's why you have millions of people following a koran that they can't read: the guy who CAN read tells 'em all what it (allegedly) says.

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No offense to you, Peteb, but the stance you took on Islam has been tried here in this forum before countless times. Each time, it results in that person being reminded of historical indisputable facts regarding the so-called 'religion' of Islam. It is not a religion. It is a theocracy. Big difference. Dictionary.com can also help you clear this up.

For a quick review, I invite you to go the 'Old FedUp USA Discussions (Read-Only)' section of the forum and type the word 'Islam' into your search tab.

One of the threads you will see is when Ron Paul didn't get it, either and was summarily proven wrong even by his supporters.http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=165....

Should you need any beheading videos, hangings, stonings, I'd be glad to dig them up in the name of Muhammad, the greatest liar in the history of mankind.

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Without jihad, there is no Islam. Islam is only the "religion of peace" in the sense that global communism is peaceful - once everyone submits to it, there will be peace.

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Without Islam, there is no jihad.
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Pete - that position is a FAIL! read some history man! as has been said there is plenty of empirical evidence that says you don't know what you are talking about.

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Moodz,

True. Most of today's conflicts (now that International Socialism no longer has the USSR pushing it) has Islam as one of the combatants, as do most of the so-called religious wars since the advent of Islam.

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If you wish to file into a Baptist Church and hear bombastic speeches from The Bible about how gays are all going to burn in Hell forever, you may


Not for long. Bank on it. In a number of European countries this is already a jailworthy offense.

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